williams@vu-vlsi.UUCP ( Student) (12/04/85)
The "We will bury you" quote has seemed to have created quite a conversation in this group. I wonder if it is deserving of all this attention.(?) I came across this quote a while back and I doubt there is a translation problem in this case. It makes "We will bury you" seem quite mild in comparison. "A war with mercy between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our moment will come in twenty to thirty years time. To win we will naturally have to have the element of suprise on our side. So the western bourgeosie will have to be put to sleep. We will, therefore, have to launch the most spectacular peace movements the world has ever known. They will contain electrifying proposals and extraordinary concessions. The capitalist countries, decadent and stupid, will cooperate with joy in their own destruction. They will jump at the chance of friendship and business. And when their guard is down, we will crush them with our clenched fist." -- Dimitri Z. Manuilski Former President United Nations Security Council General Council The recent '50% reduction offer' sounds like an 'electrifying proposals' to me... Any comments? -taw "Are you Listening?" allegra!\ "Feed Jane Fonda to the Whales" pyrnj!vu-vlsi!williams topaz!/
berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) (12/07/85)
> > The "We will bury you" quote has seemed to have created quite a > conversation in this group. I wonder if it is deserving of all this > attention.(?) I came across this quote a while back and I doubt there > is a translation problem in this case. It makes "We will bury you" > seem quite mild in comparison. > > "A war with mercy between communism and capitalism > is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to > attack. Our moment will come in twenty to thirty years time. > To win we will naturally have to have the element of suprise > on our side. So the western bourgeosie will have to be put to > sleep. We will, therefore, have to launch the most spectacular > peace movements the world has ever known. They will contain > ................. > -- Dimitri Z. Manuilski > Former President of United Nations Security Council General Council > The problem is that it is not a quote of Khrushchev. Khrushchev, some incidents notwithstanding, was the only Soviet leader who was serious about peacefull coexistence. He approved the Hungarian intervention, but otherwise was preceding over some liberal reforms, the deepest cultural "thaw" in Soviet history and over deep reduction of the military budget. He genuinely wanted the confrontation to have a character of economical competition. Being excentric and untraditional, he was rejected by Soviet leadership. One can try to draw many conclusions from Khrushchev saga. However, to equate every Soviet polititian to a Stalinist propagandist is not putting any light on the kind of relationship USA should try to have with Soviet Union. Piotr Berman