[net.politics] State Dept. and naivete of Clayton Cramer

orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) (03/06/86)

> From Clayton Cramer: 
> What are your sources?  I would be curious to hear that the U.S. State
> Department would publish a thoroughly false history of the rise of
> Fascist Italy in one of their Area Handbook series.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least!  Consider how credible a history
of Vietnam written by the State Dept. would be.........
          tim sevener   whuxn!orb

ins_akaa@jhunix.UUCP (Ken Arromdee) (03/09/86)

>> From Clayton Cramer: 
>> What are your sources?  I would be curious to hear that the U.S. State
>> Department would publish a thoroughly false history of the rise of
>> Fascist Italy in one of their Area Handbook series.
>I wouldn't be surprised in the least!  Consider how credible a history
>of Vietnam written by the State Dept. would be.........
>          tim sevener   whuxn!orb

Wait!  Remember, a few articles later was a remark that the Area Handbook
was in fact more accurate than it appeared to be at this point.
Why are you always so fast in picking up anything that may show the US
government to be evil, but never the USSR?  
-- 
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socialism, because socialism is defunct.  It dies all by iself.  The bad thing
is that socialism, being a victim of its... Did I say socialism?" -Fidel Castro

Kenneth Arromdee
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cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) (03/10/86)

> > From Clayton Cramer: 
> > What are your sources?  I would be curious to hear that the U.S. State
> > Department would publish a thoroughly false history of the rise of
> > Fascist Italy in one of their Area Handbook series.
> 
> I wouldn't be surprised in the least!  Consider how credible a history
> of Vietnam written by the State Dept. would be.........
>           tim sevener   whuxn!orb

1. See my next two postings about the Italian elections of 1922.

2. False analogy.  The State Department played a major role in the
Vietnam War, but not in the rise of Fascist Italy.  If you were talking
about the Italian Government, it would another matter.  (Of course,
logic never has been a strong point for Tim Sevener.)