[net.politics] Terrorism: definition: re to Tanenbaum

orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) (03/18/86)

> > [Tom Keller]
> >    We *ARE* directly supporting terrorism in many places around the globe.  It
> > makes no difference what govenrment is currently in power in these places, to
> > support groups like th Contras or Savimbe's guerillas is to support terrorism.
> > I do not necessarily support the Sandinista regime, nor the current government
> > of Angola.  I also do not support the campaign of terrorism against them that
> > is currently being waged **BY THE UNITED STATES**.
> -----------------------
> A question for Tom Keller, Tim Sevener, et. al.:
> Do you feel that to support the Afghan Guerillas is to support terrorism?
> If not, why not?  Why are the Contras and Savimbi terrorists and the
> Afghans not terrorists?
> 	Remember, terrorism is a TACTIC, and has nothing to do with
> the justification of the underlying cause.  How do the ACTIONS of
> Savimbi differ from those of the Afghan Guerillas.  The relative
> legitimacy of the Angolan and Afghan Governments has a great bearing
> on whether we should support the respective guerillas, but no bearing on whether
> or not the guerilla actions are terrorism.
> 	Terrorism ala Keller/Sevener:  Any action which results in
> the deaths of innocent people taken on behalf of a cause with which
> Keller/Sevener is out of sympathy.
> -- 
> Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL  ihnp4!ihlpg!tan

Bill, you know very well that I, at least, have never voiced support
for terrorism whether for a cause I support or not.  Terrorism
is the use of force against innocent civilians.  It is indeed a
reprehensible tactic used by many groups engaging in violent change.
I do not understand why an intelligent person like yourself can
have failed to *read* my postings on terrorism.  I believe that
in every case I have *always* noted my opposition to *ALL* terrorism,
whether of left or right.  I have *NEVER* condoned terrorism whether
it be the PLO, the ANC, or the Contras.  What I have tried to do
is to simply point out that it is a blatant contradiction to claim
to be concerned about terrorism and yet fund and support terrorism.
I have also tried to point out that the media has fostered this
contradiction by failing to label terrorism as terrorism 
and by selective reporting as well as labelling of incidents of
terrorism.  Thus even the generally critical New York Times has
simply accepted the label of "Mexican Communist *terrorists*"
as opposed to "Nicaraguan *rebels*" in a report on political 
groups paying for access to the media.
 
As to Afghanistan, since the rebellion is generally supported
and aided by the native population, I doubt that most attacks
are directed against innocent civilians. On the other hand
I am not sure that the Afghans violent resistance is the best form
such resistance should take (tho it should *definitely* take some
form) moreover I am afraid that the Islamic fundamentalism of
the mujahadin will lead to severe repressions if they should
ever come to power.  BUT at least the Afghans have a right to
freedom from Soviet domination.
In South Africa, the ANC unfortunately began a campaign of
terrorism a decade ago.  As much as I support the ANC aim of
dismantling apartheid, I cannot condone the ANC use of
terrorism.  Rather than serving the cause of abolishing apartheid
I feel the ANC violence allows Botha's regime to rationalize
apartheid and government policy as responses to "communist violence".
Moreover such violence also serves the cause of the most militant
and ruthless members of the ANC who become more likely to
achieve power and to turn violence against their own black
people when,as is inevitable, the ANC comes to power in S. Africa.
 
Will *YOU* be so consistent in denouncing terrorism?
        tim sevener      whuxn!orb