trb@drux3.UUCP (01/25/84)
Lyndon LaRouche is basically a madman. He believes that there is an international conspiracy to kill him, he founded the Marxist National Labor Party, the National Democratic Policy Committee, and presides over the equally Marxist Liberty Lobby, which puts out an anti-semetic rag called SPOTLIGHT. This rag sucks people in under the guise of being conservative, but turns out to be another forum for his anti-everything, Marxist views. In short, I believe Lyndon Larouche to be crazy, and a very dangerous man. Especially when you consider the following he has. Tom Buckley ...drux3!trb
lkk@mit-eddie.UUCP (Larry Kolodney) (03/08/84)
Here's some info on Larouche for all you types who have been wondering:
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Subject: More on LaRouche and the U.S. Labor Party
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Here's a message I sent to a local Xerox distribution list a few months
ago on the subject......
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Oh boy, I could almost write a book about Lyndon LaRouche, his numerous
front groups and publications, and his long history of harrassing Left
and Progressive organizations and individuals in the United States.
LaRouche started out as a member of the Socialist Workers' Party
(SWP)--a Trotskyist organization that publishes "The Militant" and was
fairly prominent in the 1960's antiwar movement. He left the SWP to
join the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), and soon found himself
leading a caucus called the "Labor Committee". They supported the New
York City teachers' strike of 1969, in which the teachers opposed
community control of schools (i.e., letting Black neighbors run schools
in Black neighborhoods.) SDS supported community control and opposed
the strike, so LaRouche's group left SDS.
For a few years, LaRouche's National Caucus of Labor Committees (NCLC)
was just another harmless, ineffectual leftist group, hawking its
newspapers and turning up at demonstrations. Then in 1972-73, they
launched a program called "Operation MOP UP", which consisted of violent
physical attacks on members of the Communist and Socialist Workers'
parties.
In the following years, NCLC (aka The U.S. Labor Party) turned radically
rightward, aligning itself with extreme rightist groups like the
American Independent Party. They began promoting a wild conspiracy
theory linking all liberal, left, and progressive organizations, plus
many mainstream people, into a terrorist plot to destroy the American
economy. Some favorite targets that I remember included the
Rockefellers, Ralph Nader, the Institute for Policy Studies, the
Stanford Research Institute (SRI), the Teamsters for a Democratic Union,
Tom Hayden, Jane Fonda, and the Campaign for Economic Democracy.
In 1977, members of the NCLC warned ultra-rightist New Hampshire
Governor Meldrim Thompson that the anti-nuclear Clamshell Alliance,
which was about to occupy the Seabrook Nuclear power plant site, was a
terrorist organization. Actually, the Clamshell was simply a
non-violent protest group just like its California counterparts, the
Abalone Alliance and the Alliance for Survival.
LaRouche is virulently anti-Semitic, and at one point launched a
campaign to "clean up" Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith.
LaRouche has a lot of money, from unknown sources. They put out a huge
amount of slickly produced literature and have a nationwide teletype
network. Many people think that the CIA funds them to disrupt the Left
inside the U.S.
LaRouche ran for President on the U.S. Labor Party ticket in 1976, and
ran in Democratic primaries in 1980. His people frequently run for
local and state offices, never getting many votes but always attracting
a lot of publicity. In Santa Monica, they circulated the baseless
accusation that Tom Hayden's Campaigne for Economic Democracy is a front
for the West German Green party.
LaRouche has used a myriad of front groups and publications over the
years, including:
U.S. Labor Party
National Caucus of Labor Committees
New Solidarity newspaper
The Campaigner press and magazine
National Anti-Drug Coalition (publishers of War on Drugs magazine--an
attempt to co-opt middle-class anti-drug sentiment)
Fusion Energy Foundation (publishers of Fusion magazine. A front
group to entice scientists and engineers)
The Young Scientists' club and magazine (an attempt to brainwash
elementary-school kids into LaRouchism under the guise of science
education)
National Democratic Policy Committee (the Democratic Party has sued to
try to stop the use of this name)
American Labor Beacon magazine (an attempt to reach out to the most
corrupt parts of the labor movement, such as the Teamster leadership)
I regard the LaRouche people as a neo-fascist brainwashed cult similar
to the Moonies and the Scientologists--but far more dangerous.
I can provide numerous magazine and newspaper citations on these people,
on request, given a little time.
/Ron
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Subject: history of Lyndon LaRouche & the US Labor party?
Cc: prog-d@mit-oz
Well, I don't know about LaRouche in 68. However, under the
nom-de-whatever of Lynn Marcus (Lenin Marx, get it), he founded the
National Conference of Labor Caucuses. Its major contribution to the
movement in the early seventies was beating up other left groups. On
several occasions, members of LaRouche's National Conference of Labor
Caucuses (same thing as USLP, NDPC, etc.) burst into meetings and
attacked people with lead pipes.
As for Irving Howe, like many social democrats, he was very slow to
criticise the US invasion of South Vietnam, and eventually joined with
the "it's too costly, bring our boys home so those gooks can fight it
out among themselves" school, basically the mainstream intellectual
opposition to the war. When the smoke cleared, he (and the rest of
the intellectual community) were faced with the task of rewriting
history to fit official ideology. So naturally any honest, early
opposition is either to be ignored or painted as irresponsible.
Note that one way of doing this is labeling them as anti-Semites,
haters of Israel, supporters of PLO "terror," as Howe and others have
done. Chomsky points out (in Peace in the Middle East and in Fateful
Triangle) that this was essentially false. So Lupo's presentation of
Cockburn's position on Israel is hardly without precedent, and hardly
independent of his politics [just thought I'd slip that in...]
There was a very good history of the USLP in Inquiry magazine in the
fall of '81 (I think November, but don't hold me to it).
Since the USLP is apparently also virulently anti-Semitic (although
they seem to be more Anglophobe), the ADL has published a few things
about them, as I found when a person writing an article for Commentary
called me.
Below is a copy of an article I wrote about their presence on campus.
They're still around.
-Bill
MIT Joins US Labor Party
[Reprinted from LINK, May 3, 1982.] [RIP]
Well, sort of. Careful observers of the posters on the walls may have
noticed a few interesting recent activities sponsored by the MIT Fusion
Energy Club. During IAP, the editor of the West German edition of {\it
Fusion} magazine spoke in the activity ``Save Science from the Stoic
Cult of Entropy,'' and recently, representatives of the Fusion Energy
Foundation presented a lecture entitled ``The World Needs Ten Billion
People: Population Requirements for a Fusion-Based Economy.'' They have
recently announced a lecture series entitled ``Fusion vs. Limits to
Growth.''
The Fusion Energy Foundation is a front of the US Labor Party, headed by
Lyndon LaRouche. It started as a leftist splinter group in the late
sixties, but drifted to the far right in the past years under the
impetus of its leader, and its opponents (including former members) have
been harassed and attacked. In recent years, it has spawned a multitude
of groups, each designed to reach a different sector. The Fusion Energy
Foundation, publisher of {\it Fusion} magazine, is their opening to the
high-tech and scientific community, as well as a bid for the pro-nuclear
constituency. (In case you haven't heard of the Fusion Energy
Foundation, they're the people in the airports with the signs, ``Nuke
Jane Fonda'' and ``Stop the Trilateralist--Rockefeller Plan for
Socialism.'')
Meanwhile, back at MIT...
The MIT Fusion Energy Club was founded in January by a Venezuelan
graduate student in Materials Science, Mariano Velez Sanchez. He said
that he had been approached by members of the Fusion Energy Foundation,
and said that he agreed to form the club because he ``supported
high-technology and fusion energy.'' When I asked him if he knew of the
connections between the Fusion Energy Foundation and Lyndon LaRouche and
the US Labor Party, he said that he didn't, but also said that he
``really didn't follow US politics.'' His application for recognition of
the Fusion Energy Club as an official undergraduate student activity is
currently proceeding through the ASA recognition process. Association
of Student Activities President Sam Austin said that their application
would be reviewed at the next ASA Executive Board meeting, this month.
When members of the Fusion Energy Foundation (selling magazines and
distributing literature at the second meeting) were asked about
connections with the US Labor Party and why they chose to contact Mr.
Velez, they refused to answer, and instead suggested to this reporter
that if he was truly curious, he would step inside and listen to the
program.
The US Labor Party was the plaintiff in a recent case against Princeton
University for which MIT filed an {\it amicus curia} brief, when a
member of the party was arrested for trespassing while he distributed
literature on the campus. The case, which was litigated to the Supreme
Court, was dismissed there because Princeton had changed its rules about
access to campus by outside groups.
Who *are* these people, anyway?
Like the Scientologists, the USLP is virulently anti-drug (although with
a weird twist). LaRouche founded the National Anti-Drug Coalition,
which publishes ``War On Drugs'' magazine. Perhaps justifying their
label as the US Labor Party (and the name of the original group
LaRouche, then a refugee from several leftist groups, founded, the
National Caucus of Labor Committees), they have provided propaganda
leaflets and muscle to help the entrenched Teamster leadership,
including Rolland McMaster, convicted in 1966 on 32 counts of labor
extortion, fight off challenges by reformers within the union. The
Private Intelligence Service, founded by the USLP, is one of several
private intelligence agencies which specializes in infiltrating and
spying on anti-nuclear groups, publishes dossiers of anti-nuclear
activists and groups in its publication, {\it Executive Intelligence
Review.}
Recently, supporters of LaRouche claim that the US Labor Party has
been disbanded, pointing to LaRouche's participation in the [1980] New
Hampshire Democratic presidential primary. They have formed the
National Democratic Policy Committee, and according to a source in the
Santa Monica area [that's you, Ron], are trying to play on anti-Tom
Hayden and anti-Jerry Brown sentiment in California. Last month, the
USLP candidate for Senate had a publicly advertised meeting at the
Santa Monica Civic Auditorium. A booklet called ``Tom Hayden's CED:
Brownshirts of the 1980's'' was distributed, comparing Hayden's
Campaign for Economic Democracy organization to the Nazi Party.
Characteristic of LaRouche's writings is a blindingly confusing array of
rhetoric. He warns that we must ``act upon the fact that the world is
threatened with a new fascist order even worse than that earlier
represented by the British-sponsored Austrian hippie, Adolf Hitler,''
the conditions for which ``are being created throughout the world
by...the austerity policies identified with the leaders of the British
Fabian Society, Friedrich von Hayek, by the drug-lobbyist professor
Milton Friedman, and by the fascist Federal Reserve Chairman Paul A.
Volker.'' More recently, in an issue of {\it New Solidarity,}
``Nonpartisan National Newspaper of the American System,'' a paper which
made its appearance at MIT last week, there were reports ``Confirming
last week's warning by the National Democratic Policy Committee's Lyndon
LaRouche, European and US intelligence analysts have reported a plot to
foment a separatist revolt in Sicily,...currently being readied under
the auspices of a truly nightmarish alliance including Libyan dictator
Qaddafi, Soviet military intelligence, British Intelligence, and US
networks including Secretary of State Alexander Haig.''
--
Larry Kolodney
(The Devil's Advocate)
(USE) ..decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!lkk
(ARPA) lkk@mit-mlbruce@godot.UUCP (Bruce Nemnich) (10/23/84)
Just who is Lyndon LaRouche, "independent democratic candidate for
President?" I first heard about him from my father, who watched a
half-hour paid tv message several months ago (before the conventions)
on a St. Louis station. The subject of that talk was agriculture.
I then watched the last 20 minutes of a similar 30-minute paid broadcast
here in Boston about 1 month ago; this time he spoke on foreign policy,
viz., Soviet strategy. My impressions of that broadcast were that the
man was extremely well prepared, his arguments seemed well-formed, and
he used AV (maps, old film clips, etc) materials very well. He spoke
very little about what he would do; rather he spent most of the time
explaining what he believed the USSR strategy to be and how current
policy was inapropriate. Kissinger's policies got the most criticism.
His political slant was very conservative.
My father said he made some pretty outrageous claims about Mondale in
the broadcast he saw (e.g., Mondale had met with a bunch of KGB-types
about something-or-other).
I just noticed a quick ad tonight that he would be on again tomorrow
night at 7:30. What is this guy's background and what is his financial
backing?
--
--Bruce Nemnich, Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA
{astrovax,cca,harvard,ihnp4,ima,mit-eddie,...}!godot!bruce, BJN@MIT-MC.ARPArrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) (10/23/84)
There's some ancient net postings on Larouche. I've heard him hold forth for an hour on TV late one night early this year. If you listen to him long enough, you realize he's a whacko with an anti-Semitic bent: he starts ranting about international banking conspiracies, & pet theories that the US Labor Party (remmeber them?) espoused a few years back. At first, his TONE sounds reasonable & inoffensive enough.
bruce@godot.UUCP (Bruce Nemnich) (10/24/84)
You're right, the guy is crazy. The segment I watched tonight consisted
almost exclusively of assertions that Mondale is a "conscious Soviet
agent" who had strategy sessions in Minnesota with a bunch of KGB
officials to plan a pro-Soviet foreign policy, and who is trying to
plant a faction of the "pro-Soviet Green party" within the Democratic
party, .... All this while continually restating that "these are
established facts, not subject to interptretation; anyone who doesn't
realize that Mondale is a conscious Soviet agent is completely ignorant
of the situation." (paraphrased, but you get the idea...)
The last segment I saw was much more sane: he developed an explanation
of his theory of current Soviet strategy by tracing historical actions
and then showed how he felt current American policy was inapropriate in
that light. I didn't see the whole thing, but I was actually somewhat
impressed by his manner of presentation.
The guy is sure spending money, though. 30 minutes tonight during
prime-time (8:30-9:00) on the Boston CBS affiliate. I wouldn't be
surprised to see Mondale sue the hell out of him. Unless, of course,
he *is* a Soviet agent. :-)
--
--Bruce Nemnich, Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA
{astrovax,cca,harvard,ihnp4,ima,mit-eddie,...}!godot!bruce, BJN@MIT-MC.ARPArick@uwmacc.UUCP (the absurdist) (10/24/84)
[ they're coming to take me away, to the bug farm today, haha! ]
It's not just Lyndon Larouche who is crazy; his followers are not my
idea of stable either. In 1980 I was working for a Congressman during
the election season. Late one afternoon I got a call from someone
who identified herself as being from the "National Democratic Policy
Committee" (the Larouche attempt to confuse people into thinking he has
something to do with mainstream politics). Why did they want to talk to
my boss? To get a US ambassador recalled for not providing enough
security to a Larouche conference in Europe; in particular, for not
providing Marines to guard Mr. Larouche against assassination attempts
which "we know are being planned", in her words.
I already knew who L.L. was at that point, and really wanted to ask
the woman if these were "Queen Elizabeth's Death Squad" that Larouche
had been raving about a few weeks earlier; but of course, you can't
do that sort of thing in talking to a voter, no matter how crazy. So
I just politely told her I'd look into the matter and get back to her,
and then put down the phone and tried to decide whether to laugh or
panic.
By the way, someone suggested in a related posting that L.L. should
not be taken seriously. Not so: at the national level he may be no
threat, but at the local level (at least in parts of Illinois) his
people are running well-financed campaigns for seats in both local
govt. (i.e., school boards) and for positions in national party
organizations. Some heretofore uncontested Democratics party positions,
for example, are being threatened by "AntiDrug Coalition" members of
the "National Democratic Policy Committee", which in a small town
sounds pretty good. Take these people seriously.
--
[ this sign-off quote intentionally left blank ]
Rick Keir -- MicroComputer Information Center, MACC
1210 West Dayton St/U Wisconsin Madison/Mad WI 53706
{allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!rickreza@ihuxb.UUCP (Reza Taheri) (10/24/84)
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In reference to LaRouche and his latest TV appearance:
> The guy is sure spending money, though. 30 minutes tonight during
> prime-time (8:30-9:00) on the Boston CBS affiliate. I wouldn't be
> surprised to see Mondale sue the hell out of him. Unless, of course,
> he *is* a Soviet agent. :-)
> --
> --Bruce Nemnich, Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA
> {astrovax,cca,harvard,ihnp4,ima,mit-eddie,...}!godot!bruce, BJN@MIT-MC.ARPA
His paid TV appearance was not a local event. It was seen here in
Chicago and apparently other places. I have a feeling it was a
nationally televised program for two reasons. One that when it was
announced on CBS on Monday, 10-21, the time was given for both Central
and Eastern time zones. The second reason was that CBS didn't mention
any shows for its 7:30 Central time slot when it was pushing its later
shows during E/R (its 7:00 Central show).
H. Reza Taheri
...!ihnp4!ihuxb!reza
(312)-979-7473riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) (10/25/84)
I have about 750 lines of discussion on Lyndon Larouche saved up from the
last time he came up in net.politics; a couple of the choicer pieces have
already been reposted, but I can mail the whole thing to any of you who are
dying to know more.
--- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.")
--- {ihnp4,harvard,seismo,gatech,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddlelkk@mit-eddie.UUCP (10/25/84)
Some people have stated that Lyndon LaRouche should not be taken seriously.
For a loonie he does seem to have a pretty powerful base.
A BI-WEEKLY newpaper of his was being distributed at MIT last year. It
was typically 8-16 pages and had no advertising. It takes non-trivial money to publish something like that. And don't forget FUSION magazine,
and the fusion energy foundation. He also has followers in europe, where
his wife Helga Zepp LaRouche, ran for the European parliament.
--
larry kolodney (The Devil's Advocate)
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ARPA: lkk@mit-mcmedin@ucbvax.ARPA (Milo Medin) (10/25/84)
His charges about Mondale are true, tho Mondale is certainly not alone in this respect. I was talking to a former CIA agent awhile ago and he was telling me about Ted Kennedy having a 'diplomat' (read confirmed KGB col.) over for a vactaion at Hyannisport. And lots of Congressmen routinely meet with them in their offices in the Capital, where the CIA is not allowed to bug (actually noone is, but this may not apply to NSA). Ron Dellums, MY rep. (ick) is a classic for this sort of behavior. In any case, this should not be construed as support for LaRouche. He's a real lunatic. I mean, he's downright fascistic! I'd much rather see mondale elected than he. And I really detest mondale. I may be conservative, but I'm no fascist. Milo
wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (10/31/84)
LaRouche's broadcast was, if not national, at least widespread. It was on here in St. Louis, and it caused a reshuffling of the national network programming for that night. It was not listed in TV Guide, so it must have been arranged at relatively short notice. Can anyone with the money to buy the time cite "political broadcast" and force a network to disrupt its scheduled entertainment programming? (I'd like to start a movement to buy out the last half hour of each football game... Now, THAT would start a revolution!) Anyway, a query -- one of the people speaking on LaRouche's broadcast was a lady with a Germanic accent and a name that seemed German and was hyphenated with LaRouche (sorry, I cannot recall it...) -- it would be like "Hanna Weber-LaRouche" in form, but I'm just making that name up. Is that Lyndon's wife? If not, is she a daughter? Or what? Will Martin USENET: seismo!brl-bmd!wmartin or ARPA/MILNET: wmartin@almsa-1.ARPA
lkk@mit-eddie.UUCP (Larry Kolodney) (11/01/84)
Helga Zepp-LaRouche is Mr. LaRouche's wife.
--
larry kolodney (The Devil's Advocate)
UUCP: ...{ihnp4, decvax!genrad}!mit-eddie!lkk
ARPA: lkk@mit-mcbzs@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein) (03/23/86)
I was just watching a spot on CNN reporting that two candidates of
Lyndon Larouche's NDPC have gotten the Democratic party nomination
in Illinois for Lieutenant Governor and Secretary of State (is that
right? Lieutenant Governor definitely, just heard the report again.)
NDPC and Larouche were overviewed as basically a radical right group
fighting against homosexuality (pan to pamphlet "AIDS: more deadly
than Nuclear War" and campaign worker "we have accepted gay lifestyles,
it's crazy"), drugs and other bugaboos of such types (nat'l debt etc.)
LAROUCHE IS NOT A RADICAL RIGHT WING TYPE HE IS A TOTAL NUT CASE, READ ON:
Ok, how about this:
Larouche during the 60's went by the name Lynn Marcus and was head of
the NCLC (nat'l coalition of labor caucuses.) This was a (supposedly)
radical left-wing group. A friend went to one of the meetings and
recalls Marcus (aka Larouche) chanting to the audience about convincing
the police they are really homosexuals and their billy clubs were dildos
(no kidding, that was typical of his ranting.)
He has learned to put a suit and tie on, looks like a daddy now and
seems to have the national media fooled but if you stop by one of
their booths and pick up some literature and read it you'll immediately
get 'extreme nut fringe' alarms going off in your head. Try engaging
one of the members in a discussion, a good leading line is 'I heard
Larouche used to go by the name Lynn Marcus' because they are highly
trained (brainwashed?) to answer that one and will get glazed-eyed
and give you 2000 words that will be frighteningly the same if you
try another member in another town ('many great minds have gone by
psuedonyms...')
FORGET IT, THESE GUYS MAKE YOUR WORST MENTAL IMAGES OF MOONIES SEEM
TAME.
This guy is getting mondo-dangerous, I feel like I am sitting by
helpless while I watch the rise of a new Hitler, no joke! Lieutenant
Governor of Illinois!!!!
[just spoke about this with a friend of mine who is a reporter for
a major newspaper (ok, the Boston Globe), he seems to agree the whole
thing is frightening and finds the CNN report 'irresponsible' in the
way they presented NDPC. I guess the Globe ran a story trying to shed
a little more light on this event. Apparently (according to him)
Stevenson (who is considered a shoo-in for governor of Illinois) is
threatening to form a third-party if the democratic party does not
find a way to undo this candidacy as he will be forced to run and
serve with these nuts which he has stated he will not do, the NDPC
is accusing Stevenson of being another Marcos etc etc.]
(if you don't hear from me again....)
-Barry Shein, Boston University
Please, Please, if all you know about Larouche is some of the reports
heard over the national media then you don't know nothing about him.
Before forming any opinion get some of his literature, maybe attend
a meeting (warning: in his earlier NCLC days rumours of kidnapping
casual attendees as government agents were rampant, approach with
caution!) or wait for some facts to start showing up on this list,
I think you'll all soon agree that for some bizarre reason the Democratic
party in Illinois has nominated members of an extremely dangerous fringe
group that does not fit into any right/left model at all but is rather
the product of the total megalomaniacial insanity of Larouche and will
(hopefully!!!) go down in history with names like Jim Jones and Reverend
Moon or worse.
THIS IS SCARY!