[net.music] Reading between the grooves

ben@moncol.UUCP (Bennett Broder) (03/29/85)

Has anybody noticed this?  On most records, in the area between where
the grooves end and the label begins, there is some writing.  Usually,
this writing is just a bunch of dull stuff to help identify the master
disc: the name of the record company, catalog number of the record,
etc.  But on some records, it appears that whomever is responsible for
doing this writing has decided to have a little fun.  Yes, there is a
whole slew of graffiti hiding in this space.  Here are some examples
from my collection:

Cyndi Lauper/She's so Unusual
     side 1: No one
     side 2: Hi, Boo  You got it again

Led Zeppelin/Led Zeppelin III
     side 1: So mote be it
     side 2: Do what thou wilt

Lene Lovich/Flex
     side 1: Change your Mind
     side 2: Mind your Change



I have not been able to determine whether these saying are on all
copies of these albums, or just those pressed from the same master
disc.  At any rate, I'd be curious to know what other music lovers can
find on their records.

                           Ben Broder
                           ..vax135!petsd!moncol!ben
                           ..pesnta!moncol!ben
                           ..princeton!moncol!ben

jsweet@uci-icsa.ARPA (Jerry Sweet) (03/31/85)

That's amusing.  I noticed some things written on Joe Walsh's albums
last year, and although I remember checking a roomie's Hotel California
album then, I don't remember the results.  Nothing shows up on the
Hotel California CD, sad to say.  Anyway, here were my results:

Joe Walsh
  You Bought It -- You Name It
    side 1: Welcome Lucy ... 12-3-82  10:12 AM
    side 2: Are we done yet?  ... Again?

  "But Seriously, Folks..."
    side 1: Luncheon Counter of the Deli Kind
    side 2: ...Call it in the air.

  There Goes the Neighborhood
    side 1: After 15 years, I still can't spell Szymczyk
    side 2: Is it one 'L', or two?

Looks like inside jokes, mostly.  Szymczyk is Walsh's producer.  Who
knows who Lucy is?

Anybody else find this kind of stuff?

-jns

nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (04/01/85)

On the Clash EP they have "Save Radio Clash... Not the Whales".

They also have some on other albums, I will check.

vanhall.wbst@XEROX.ARPA (04/01/85)

I had heard on a radio show that some Eagles albums have writing on
them.  Also the first New Math album released in '82, or so, and maybe
their latest lp under the name of Jet Black Berries has something on it
too.

Rock.SBDERX@XEROX.ARPA (04/01/85)

> Has anybody noticed this?  On most records, in the area between where
> the grooves end and the label begins, there is some writing.  Usually,
> this writing is just a bunch of dull stuff to help identify the master
> disc: the name of the record company, catalog number of the record,
> etc.  But on some records, it appears that whomever is responsible for
> doing this writing has decided to have a little fun.

Yes, I've been aware of this for some time.  Often the writing
identifies the engineer who cut the master disc.  In England in the
early 70s, most masters were cut by one of two people - either George
"Porky" Peckham, or a guy called Arun.  Both of these used to inscribe
their names on their products.  Apparently, if Porky produced what he
considered to be a masterpiece, he would scratch "A Porky prime cut" on
the acetate.  Conversely, if Arun produced a cutting that he wasn't very
proud of, he would scratch "A Porky prime cut" on the acetate ......

	Ian

ryan@cloud9.DEC (Mike Ryan DTN 264-8280 MK01-2/H32) (04/01/85)

The Clash's Sandinista album has, spread over all 6 sides:

In space no one can hear you CLASH!!

rds5695@ritcv.UUCP (Robert D. Seals) (04/01/85)

> 
> Has anybody noticed this?  On most records, in the area between where
> the grooves end and the label begins, there is some writing.  
> ....  But on some records, it appears that whomever is responsible for
> doing this writing has decided to have a little fun. 

This seems to be a growing and obviously dangerous trend.
I think it's probably related to the same people that put
backwards messages in the songs. Communists, or worse yet, SOCIALISTS!

Like on the first two Joy Division records, there's stuff in there
about how Ian was going to 'take all of Manchester with him.'
Ho ho ho. April Fool's!

Yes, it seems like a lot of disk cutters are putting junk in there.
Joy Division and OMD, who were both mastered at the same place for
a while, both have stuff. And Husker Du is another current example.
But who cares really? It's usually just drivel, along the lines
of backwards &c. In the case of Joy Division, it served to increase
the mystique in their devotees, because of cryptic little messages.

Does anybody know something substantial about Yamaha cx5m (?) ?
Seems (from blurb in Byte) to be a pretty groovy thing for $469.

Robert Seals
no clever punchline

Fournier.pasa@XEROX.ARPA (04/01/85)

	Off the top of my head, I can't say that I've noticed anything odd on
the record itself. But I do have an early (ca.1973) Horslips album, more
traditional-Irish than much of their later stuff, where the record
jacket is truly unbelievably filled with all sorts of non sequiturs and
just plain odd stuff.  My favorite, though, is "This stereo record may
be played on Monaural equipment provided a compatible cartridge is
fitted, or it is not Monday, or inland, or fifty-fifty, or Tom is not
down the road to Cardonaugh."   Boilerplate is so much fun to play
with...
				Marina Fournier
				<fournier.pasa@Xerox.arpa>

Cooper.SBDERX@XEROX.ARPA (04/02/85)

Some more gems from around the centre...

B52's/B52's
	side 1: Ah jus luv...
	side 2: ...the B52's

Jimi Hendrix/The Essential Jimi Hendrix
	side 1: Groovy Grass Indeed!
	side 2: Nice One Alan
	side 3: JMH Lives - Bob!
	side 4: Bob The Trog

Joy Division/Unknown Pleasures
	side 1: Step
	side 2: This Is The Way

Joy Division/Closer
	side 2: Old Blue ?

Nick Lowe/Jesus of Cool
	side 1: Jesus of Cool  Can You Say That?  Cool
	side 2: Sure You Can

Magazine/Secondhand Daylight
	side 1: You Won
	side 2: Neato

Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark/Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark
	side 1: The Words Were On The Ceiling
	side 2: The Words Are On The Ceiling

Original Mirrors/Heart Twango and Raw Beat
	side 1: Gramophonic Lullaby
	side 2: Boppaloppin' in a Merry World


I got bored after getting that far through my collection, so I gave up.
Also, I did notice that my copy of Led Zeppelin III doesn't have
anything in the middle.

	Martin.

edward@ukma.UUCP (Edward C. Bennett) (04/09/85)

> Also, I did notice that my copy of Led Zeppelin III doesn't have
> anything in the middle.
>

	There are those who maintain that Led Zeppelin had nothing
in the middle. ;-)

stassen@spp2.UUCP (Chris Stassen) (04/09/85)

	Pink Floyd/The Wall:

	(end of side 4): "Isn't this where..."
	(beg of side 1): "... we came in"

nm34@sdcc12.UUCP (nm34) (04/10/85)

    I dont know if anyone has mentioned Dave Bromberg's album "Bandit in
a Bathing Suit" where the last grooves of the record end with an
infinitely long ode to Debbie Boone and Tod Rundgren(sp?) and other pop
wonders of our age. 

                                   Andy Bindman
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