JBROOKSHIRE@USC-ISIF.ARPA (Jerry R. Brookshire) (05/29/86)
I recently sent an enquiry to this list about status/experience/use of the Army Ada Language System (ALS), and promised to summarize the results, if any. Well, The results are fairly sparse, but may themselves prompt more response, so here they are: 1.__________ Reply-To: "CALLAND" <calland@nosc-tecr> I believe the Army is in the process of winding down the ALS program. I have been told the Army cancelled it about 6 wks ago, then changed their minds, and now is investigating the costs of contract cancellation and having a tiger team study the situation simultaneously. The Navy is basing its Ada development on the ALS - this program is called ALS/N. The project engineer is Bill Wilder of the Naval Sea Systems Command, PMS 408. I believe his net address is WILDER@NUSC-NPT. His phone number is 202 692 8204. The target computers are the AN/AYK-14, AN/UYK-43, and AN/UYK-44. I would be interested in seeing what you can find out or confirm about the future of the ALS. 2.__________ From: larry@Jpl-VLSI.ARPA I attended the most recent ALS users group. The general consensus seemed to be that the current version 2.something is a major improvement over version 1.0, but that a fair amount of work still needs to be done before it's really production quality. One of the problems is the runtime module that lets you execute outside the ALS environment, an important consideration if you want to distribute SW to non-ALS systems. Another is the enormous resources used by the ALS. You pretty much have to have a VAX dedicated to the ALS. As for targets, the only one they officially support is to bare Intel 8086/8, using (as I recall--don't have documentation here) the Intel MDS as an intermediary. Who's using it? Not very many people, apparently. I'm providing help to two DoD prjects, one USAF and one Army. Both have the ALS, but have bought the DEC Ada compiler and are using it for their real work. When they complete the baseline systems, they will then convert it to the ALS and deliver that. I've talked to people who are doing something similar using the Verdix system. Eventually the ALS will be a very nice system. They're closer to having a full Stoneman CAIS than the commercial people, but they also need to develop more optimized compiler and run-time system. They also need to develop hooks to off-the-shelf SW such as DBMSs, graphics packages, and the like. Larry @ jpl-vlsi 3.__________ From: prindle@NADC The ALS is currently being used as the baseline for the Navy ALS/N, a substan- tial retargeting effort intended to support Ada applications running on one of the three Navy standard computer architectures, the AN/UYK-44, the AN/UYK-43, and the AN/AYK-14. In addition to straightforward retargeting of the compiler, both the Programming Support Environment and the Run-Time Environment are being customized to specific Navy tactical embedded systems requirements; nonetheless, the ALS compiler front end (Machine-Independent) section and the MAPSE are to be used with only minor modifications. The major modifications are in the compiler back-end (code generator), the run-time support, and the addition of tools and capabilities not currently supported by ALS. The ALS/N, in turn, will become the Navy's principal High-Order-Language for development of tactical embedded applications, thereby replacing CMS-2. Hope this information is useful for your survey. Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.arpa 4.__________ From: Rob Spray <rob%ct.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA> There was an article on the ALS in the May 1986 issue of The DEC Professional written by Dennis Turner who is "chief of Software Technology Development Division within the Center for Tactical Computer Systems, Fort Monmouth". On p122 he states: "The ALS is currently hosted on the VAX-11/780 with the VMS operating system. The version of the compiler that is targeted to the host was validated by the Ada Joint Program Office (AJPO) in December 1984. Continuing development activities will produce targets for the Intel iAPX286 and a "bare" (no resident operating system) VAX. Plans are also underway to retarget the ALS to the Motorola 68000 family." A footnote states: "Request for copies of the Ada Language System, documentation or any of the Ada or ALS training material developed at CECOM should be directed to: Commander, U.S. Army CECOM ATTN: AMSEL-TCS-ADA Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703-5204" Couple of rumors: 1) Heard at a SIGAda conference that any Govt contractor could get an free evaluation copy of the ALS 2) A local site reports that the ALS performance is getting better. Rob Spray Computer * Thought rob%ct@csnet-relay -------