[net.rec.ski] Need info on XC skis, bindings, shoes

ronb@tekred.UUCP (Ron Bremer ) (01/16/85)

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I have recently taken up XC skiing and I would like to get your
opinions on what to look for in a good ski, what type of binding,
and what type of boot.  Also poles.

I do mostly touring, very little groomed tails.  To start out with,
I want waxless skis.  Maybe after I become more fanatical I will want
to optimize for the snow, but right now I want to take to easy route.

Are any brands better than others?  Are there brands I should be wary of?

Thank you for your help.

Ron Bremer
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rsg@cbscc.UUCP (Bob Garmise) (01/18/85)

>I have recently taken up XC skiing and I would like to get your
>opinions on what to look for in a good ski, what type of binding,
>and what type of boot.  Also poles.

Skis: I own waxless and waxable. I prefer waxable if the weather is fairly
      constant. Waxless is good for starters but typically does not glide
      well. You may find yourself walking much of the way and not skiing.
    - Don't get racing xc skis. These are narrower than regular xc skis and
      are very difficult to control for beginners.
    - When you stand with both feet on the skis, you should be able to slip
      a playing card under the ski. It's all in the camber...too much and you
      glide even on the backstroke...too little and you grip all the time. 
    - Brands are moderately different, but not for the beginner. Fischer,
      Rossignol, Trak, etc. are all well known, as are others. Look for camber
      first and color, brand name, etc. next. In other words, don't get an off
      brand, but brand is not as critical here for beginners as it might be in
      downhill skiing.
    - Length is supposed to be perfect if you can curl your upraised hand
      around the tip. However, if you are very light or very heavy this won't
      work. Again, camber is the key, not length per se. 

Bindings: I prefer metal, three prong bindings. I hesitate to buy plastic.
Three prong is a standard, but the Adidas system is also popular now. Your
choice of shoes may dictate your decision here.

Poles: While standing on the skis, they should fit under your armpit. Too long
and you cannot get enough leverage to obtain the required push. Too short and
you will get a backache from bending over all the time.

Shoes: This is the real key. Pay $1,000,000 if you have to to get a comfortable
pair. Put on liner socks, a pair of knee socks, and try out shoes. They should
feel incredibly great right from the beginning. No break-in period...no
"they'll feel better later" lines, no "they'll be ok once you oil them" lines.
Simply, they should feel ok right off the bat. I paid $55 back in 1978 which was
a lot at the time. Definitely worth the money.

Other: Polypropylene long underwear. Polypropylene sock liners. Polypropylene
glove liners. And I don't even sell polypropylene. They even sell poly...
turtle necks now. Nice warm sweater over your turtle neck and long underwear
and a gortex shell over that. Knickers, jeans, or just plain corduroy pants
over the long underwear. Knee socks. Gaitors to keep snow out of your shoes. A
nifty skiing cap, vasaline for your face, wool mittens (gloves disperse heat
more rapidly and are not needed), and you're ready to hit the trail. Don't
forget the m&m's, granola bars, raisons, apples, and all the other goodies you
can eat and drink along the way. Stuff all those things in your knapsack. With
any luck you will only gain 5-10 lbs cross country skiing.
...bob garmise...at&t bell labs, columbus...