[net.rec.ski] Summer Skiing

bob@varian.UUCP (07/05/83)

				Summer Skiing
	
	Tired of the summer ?  Need a weekend away from the surf ?

	Go skiing !

	Just returned from a Fourth of July ski trip to Mammoth, well
	worth the trip. There are  several lifts open and a vertical
	drop of 2000 ft., the snow is good and not icy or slushy all day
	long. This miracle is achieved by snow cats constantly running 
	up and down the slopes spraying some sort of chemical which
	'freezes' the snow during the day and prevents it from freezing
	at night. The temperature was in the high sixties and many
	were skiing in just swimming gear - take the sun lotion.
	If you want to catch some sun (any) don't put on the #15 too
	early, that stuff really works. I covered up with it and skied
	for 4 hrs in shorts then rode 300 miles on my motorcycle in a
	T shirt and shorts and didn't know I had been in the sun !

	Mammoth expects to be open for two more weekends and possibly
	into August - suggest you call first though. Still lots of
	snow ( >10 ft. in places ) but roads are all clear and mostly
	dry. Don't know if Alpine or Kirkwood will be open any more
	but understand that the snow there is very slushy by 11 am 
	as they cannot spray. 
	Does anybody know what they spray with, it's only referred to
	as 'salt' up there but it's not likely to be NaCl judging from
	its effect on the snow - could be KCl which would cool the snow
	as it dissolves and lower the freezing point for the night effect,
	but that would be pretty expensive and lift tickets were only $14.

	Good skiing !!

	Bob Palin
	...!zehntel!varian!bob

chris@columbia.UUCP (Chris Maio) (03/24/85)

Can anyone recommend a good place to ski this summer, sometime between May
and June?  Glacier skiing in Europe sounds attractive; I was at Stubai in
Tyrol last winter and was told they have good skiing year round, but I'd like
to find out about larger glaciers elsewhere in Europe, or year-round skiing
in Canada.  Thanks.

- Chris

ganns@hound.UUCP (R.GANNS) (03/26/85)

What about Portillo, Chile ? Has anyone out there skiied it?
Down there, the seasons are reversed. It would be interesting to
hear about it. It would likely be cheap, too, given the exchange
rate for the dollar.

wagner@uw-june (Dave Wagner) (03/27/85)

Why not try New Zealand?

			Dave Wagner
			University of Washington Comp Sci Department
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mgh@hou5h.UUCP (Marcus Hand) (03/27/85)

> Can anyone recommend a place to go skiing this summer... may and june...?

How about one of the southern hemisphere resorts?  Chile or Peru seem the
nearest (and I've seen camps advertised in Skiing magazine), but they
ski in Australia, too.
-- 
			Marcus Hand	(hou5h!mgh)

mwherman@watcgl.UUCP (Michael W. Herman) (03/27/85)

Sunshine Village near Banff, Alberta regularly stays open until the
end of May (sometimes mid-June).  The reason that is often given for
closing at those times is that there aren't enough people coming out
to the hill to justify staying open.

The conditions in the Canadian Rockies are supposed to be very good 
this year.  I'm going out April 18'th for a week and will let you
know first hand when I get back.

seb@ahutb.UUCP (03/27/85)

REFERENCES:  <1028@hound.UUCP>

	The dollar may be strong against the peso in Chile, but
that doesn't help you much with airfare which is outrageous.
My fiance is from Chile and from what I've heard from his family
and friends, getting to Chile will cost you an arm and a leg,
but once you get there, you won't believe how cheap it is.
	Portillo is listed as one of the ten great ski resorts
in the world. I've never been there, but I'm sure I'll get there
before long, to ski and visit the other half of the family.

Sharon Badian
ihnp4!hocsp!ahutb!seb

btb@ahuta.UUCP (Bruce Burger) (03/28/85)

> Where should I go summer skiing, say in May or June?

In May or June, Arapahoe Basin (near Denver) should still be open.
That's still spring skiing!  As for summer, Chile sounds like it
has the best skiing, but also (especially this year) the best
warfare.  A New Zealander told me that between New Zealand and
Australia, Australia has bigger ski resorts but New Zealand has
better skiing.  He said August is the prime month but also crowded
with students.  June and July are stormy; September is his
preference (similar to US spring skiing).  Anyone have data to
verify or contradict any of this info?  Sound tempting...

--Bruce Burger     AT&T Information Systems     Freehold, NJ
  {...ihnp4!}ahuta!btb

eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya) (03/29/85)

> Can anyone recommend a good place to ski this summer, sometime between May
> and June?

Well, if you go to the Portland Usenix meeting in June you can ski Mt. Hood.
I skied from the summit after walking up in the moonlight on my birthday
several years ago.  It was the day after a Pascal Standards committee meeting
in Portland.  We should probably make a skiing contingent [U*nix].  You'll
get lots of letters from Tek and Intel on this I bet.

You have to be real careful skiing on glaciers, especially late season.
This is when crevices open up (May on).  In 1979, I was skiing, un roped
with four glaciologists when I fell into a crevice.  Fortunately,
the angle was such that one ski fell in and the other was downhill.
I swore the crevice was 30 feet deep.  Next day, I skied by, it was
only 15 feet deep! [shrunk a lot that night! :-)]  The Mt Hood ski area
has the advantage that it is a permanent snow field rather than a
glacier.  Also, the US ski team trains here.

You may ask, why ski unroped-- none of us expected crevices, it was mid winter.
You should have seen the expression on my friends' faces: knowing this
was their livelihood.

Canada does not really have much glacier ski except the heliski services
like CMH.  Again, use care.  Europe: try around Zermatt, I hear.

--eugene miya
  NASA Ames Research Center
  {hplabs,ihnp4,dual,hao,vortex}!ames!aurora!eugene
  emiya@ames-vmsb.ARPA

jans@mako.UUCP (Jan Steinman) (04/01/85)

>Can anyone recommend a good place to ski this summer, sometime between May
>and June?

To my knowledge, the only USA summer ski *resorts* are here in Oregon.  Mt.
Bachelor is about 4 hrs drive from Portland and is the area's most popular
destination resort.  Mt. Hood is ~1 hour from Portland and has a faithful
day-use crowd all summer.  Both areas close after Labor Day (September!)
due to lack of interest, not snow.  See the latest issue of Nordic World for
an article on summer skiing, with about a full page devoted to Oregon.  Other
summer skiing in USA (don't know about Canada) is hike-up or hire a
helicopter.  That's why I moved here!
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kovalsky@spp2.UUCP (Bruce Kovalsky) (04/03/85)

Mammoth Mountain, California, in the Eastern Sierras, consistently stays open 
until the 4th of July each year. Two years ago, with tremendous snowfall, they
were able to stay open until August 6!

Mammoth claims to be the "Corn Snow Capital of the World", for its unique
type of snow that arrives each Spring (snow surface melts during the day and 
freezes at night, forming pellets than resemble corn kernals). Spring and 
early summer skiing at Mammoth is very popular as they have sunny days, a 
decent base, and lots of tanned bodies! Enjoy...
-----
Bruce Kovalsky
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