[net.rec.ski] Exercises?

dkw@homxa.UUCP (D.WOMBOUGH) (08/05/85)

Can anyone recommend exercises (Other than just general exercises .i.e jogging)
to prepare for downhill skiing this winter??? 

kurtk@tektronix.UUCP (Kurt Krueger) (08/08/85)

	Two excersizes that I have found to be very useful are:

1. Squats with weights. Doesn't have to be heavy weights, pick a
   weight that lets you do about 20.  DON'T do full squats (bad for knees).

2. Do a dummy turn.  Squat down, stand up to unweight, pivot on the balls
   of your feet.  Repeat until the thighs burn.  The thigh burn feels just
   like the real thing.

ken@turtlevax.UUCP (Ken Turkowski) (08/11/85)

In article <1080@homxa.UUCP> dkw@homxa.UUCP (D.WOMBOUGH) writes:
>Can anyone recommend exercises (Other than just general exercises .i.e jogging)
>to prepare for downhill skiing this winter??? 

The classic ski exercise is to "sit" against a wall without a chair for
as long as you can (I think my max was 2 minutes).

In other words, 1) stand with your back to the wall; 2) move your legs
out from the wall; 3) bend your knees and hips so they both make right
angles; 4) stay there 20 seconds after you start to tremble.

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vch@rruxo.UUCP (V. Hatem) (08/13/85)

Try deep knee bends. Really! Stop laughing. Seriously, now, do about 30 a 
day (if you can... it's harder than you think.) and you'll keep your thighs
in good shape. Roll up onto your toes and it'll help your calves also. 
Pointing your toes in different directions (toes out, toes in, toes straight)
works on slightly different muscles.

After not skiing in two years, totally out of shape, I had two weeks to
get into shape for a week in Maine. I was hurting for the two weeks beforehand,
but I skiied all week, and I wasn't sore at all.

See ya on those black diamond slopes...

Vince Hatem 
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zrm@prism.UUCP (08/14/85)

Would anyone out there who is informed about such things please
comment at greater length about what kinds of excercises are best for
skiing. Do exercises such as the chair-less sitting exercises that
imitate the kind of workout your legs get while skiing work best? How
about weight training? Are there exercises that will improve the
strength of the muscles that help in keeping one's knees from getting
mangled by moguls that insist on sending your ski off in some
unplanned direction?

"I won't (usually) ski it if snow doesn't stick to it."
Zigurd R. Mednieks
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stanford@ssc-vax.UUCP (Stanford N Payzer) (08/15/85)

> Try deep knee bends. Really! Stop laughing. Seriously, now, do about 30 a 
> day (if you can... it's harder than you think.) and you'll keep your thighs
> in good shape. Roll up onto your toes and it'll help your calves also. 
> Pointing your toes in different directions (toes out, toes in, toes straight)
> works on slightly different muscles.
> 
> After not skiing in two years, totally out of shape, I had two weeks to
> get into shape for a week in Maine. I was hurting for the two weeks beforehand,
> but I skiied all week, and I wasn't sore at all.

Sorry I don't have a published source, but the ski instructors and aerobics
instructors I have talked to do not recommend DEEP knee bends. My personal
experience with a few months worth of them was that I could no longer hike
down hill without knee pain. They now recommend a modified (not deep) knee
bend.
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mraspuzzi@kl2137.DEC (Michael Raspuzzi) (08/19/85)

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>Try deep knee bends. Really! Stop laughing. Seriously, now, do about 30 a 
>day (if you can... it's harder than you think.) and you'll keep your thighs
 
About 6 years ago I had a very bad accident during time trials for a
downhill race. I needed major surgery on my knee. I was fortunate that
most of the damage was to the cartilage and not the ligaments in my
knee. Now to the point: during physical therapy, I asked the doctor
if I should be doing deep knee bends to strengthen the muscles in my
knees. He told me that deep knee bends are the WORSE things anyone can
do for their knees. He said to try riding a bike, swimming or running
in an open field (as running on asphalt or the like causes your knees
to pound and absorb unnescessary shock). Injuries are no fun, that is
why we all try to do exercise to prepare for skiing (hurray to everyone
who is smart enough to realize they have to get in shape first) but
lets do them right.
 
Yes I still ski (14 years now) but I am no longer running in many
downhill races (mostly slalom and GS) because the doc told me if I
had another accident, walking might be tough to do.......
 
Mike Raspuzzi
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lowell@fluke.UUCP (Lowell Skoog) (08/20/85)

As several people have mentioned, a classic skier's exercise is to sit against
the wall with the legs bent ninety degrees.  This stengthens the thighs, and I
think it also strengthens the knees, lessening the chance of injuries.

The thing that bothers me about this exercise is that there are some variables,
particularly the friction at the wall and floor surfaces, that greatly affect
the difficulty of the exercise.  Unless you always do the exercise under the
same conditions, it is hard to tell if you're making any progress.

As an alternative, I have tried crouching in a downhill racer's stance, away
from the wall, and holding that position for a few minutes.  About the only 
variable here is how much you bend your knees.  I am not a physical trainer, 
so I don't know if this exercise is as valuable as the other one.  It seems 
to work the seat and back muscles more, however.

Another exercise that I hate (but do) are back arches.  You need a bench or
something similar that you can lay down on and hook your heels.  Lay stomach
down with your upper body hanging over the end of the bench.  Put your hands
behind your head.  Bend at your waist, lowering your head and shoulders, then
lift back up, arching your back.  Start out very easy or you could get real
sore.  This exercise is miserable, but it keeps my lower back from getting 
hurt during early season mogul skiing.
			
					  Lowell Skoog     
					  Seattle, Washington      
					  !fluke!lowell