rosen@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (Rob Rosen) (01/16/86)
I just got back from a week-long stay at Aspen Mountain. I came in with a storm on Sunday, 1/5 which provided about a half a foot of fresh powder to Ajax and about a foot or so to Snowmass, with some amount in between these two levels at Aspen Highlands. By Saturday, 1/11, Ajax was pretty skiied off and there were many rocks -- enough to close down about 10 runs. (Personally, I destroyed my bases coming down Jackpot). The lack of snow was not so noticable at the Highlands or at Snowmass, although both areas did exhibit extensive lift lines (~10-15 minutes) in some areas. My impressions of these three areas pretty much match others' stated over the last couple weeks, although I must admit that I don't think that Ajax is really "70% advanced, 30% intermediate"; many of the "advanced" runs at Ajax are less difficult than some of the "inter- mediate" runs at the Highlands, and the "advanced" runs at Snowmass are actually slightly steeper versions of the intermediate runs there. I didn't get a chance to take the "expert only runs", though, because they were all closed off due to the paucity of snow. Anyway, my conclusions for the higher-level skiiers out in Netland are -- "try the Highlands if you want ROUGH and TOUGH slopes." Aspen and Snowmass are both very nice places which offer GREAT service; staff are very friendly at both places, and all possible amenities are provided in order to make the skiing experience more pleasurable (e.g. excellent quality food). I didn't find the prices to be unreasonable, given that most ski area prices are rediculously high in the first place. Aspen Highlands, however, provided distinctly less in the way of 'frills'; staff were not as friendly, food was of poorer quality, lifts were old and probably dangerous (I rode a ten minute PLATTER lift as part of the transfer to the top area of the hill -- it's been over TEN YEARS since I've even SEEN a platter lift, much less RIDDEN one!), and lines were longer. However, most of Aspen's true "locals" hang out at the Highlands (apparently because season passes are much cheaper there than at Aspen), and I saw more truly good skiiers there than at either Snowmass or Aspen Mountain per se. Also, the runs tend to be cut in a more challenging fashion; this leads to most runs being covered with choppy moguls, which make skiing a good line through them very difficult, especially if one has 190+ cm skis. In short: SNOWMASS for long, wide, mogul-less slopes (good for cruising at high speed) Good for families because it's so big and has so much variety. ASPEN MOUNTAIN ("Ajax") for steep, bumpy slopes -- not impossibly hard to get down, though Good for better skiiers and celebrity-watchers. ASPEN HIGHLANDS for medium-length and width runs that can get pretty steep but will almost certainly be cut with chopped-up hairy moguls. This is the place to go to if you REALLY want to challenge your skills. Good for people with a lot of patience and who can deal with less frills in exchange for less money; also good for people who like to pretend to be locals (|-)) --Rob -- "first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" --Rob Rosen ...ucbvax!rosen rosen@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
jimmy@scgvaxd.UUCP (J Raisanen) (01/18/86)
Does anyone out there know of any source of information to find out how the various ski areas of California compare to each other? Things like base and peak elevations, numbers of lifts and runs, average amount of snow, etc. There was a well done posting of this sort a while back for Oregon ski areas and I thought about it then. Pamphlets and brochures tell you mostly what the resorts themselves want you to know and not always what you want to know. Also is there any information available on the average amount of lift line waits are? I seen anywhere from skiing to the chair to 10-15 minutes and heard the horror stories of the 30-45 minute waits of the Southern California resorts. Thanks in Advance, Jim Raisanen - The Falling Finn!!!!
wjh@bonnie.UUCP (Bill Hery) (01/21/86)
> Does anyone out there know of any source of information to > find out how the various ski areas of California compare > to each other? Things like base and peak elevations, numbers > of lifts and runs, average amount of snow, etc. > American Express ond at least one of the ajor airlines (United or American) used to distribute guides to western ski areas. These were obtainable for free from travel agents (just prtend you're thinking of booking a trip...). I have gotten them from east coast agents, but I don't know if they are also distributed on the west coast. Also, if you don't mind paying a few dollars, there are more complete guide books that you can find in the travel section of a book store.