gps@ariel.UUCP (GLENN SCHWARTZ) (04/05/85)
Reffering to the existential question for everyone out there about the Dead: "What can we say about the meaning of its future mythic resonance? Why are the dead 'grateful'? This is not a normal thought about the dead, unless they are in heaven, or resurrected. The future resonance of 'Grateful Dead' is comforting, for it implies there is something to look forward to. The feelings inspired by these words clearly reflect this." This excerpt is from a concert program that also told the story of the grateful dead man, who is part of ancient Egyption folklore. He always has appeared at strange times throughout history, a faceless man (skull&roses) ever wandering, with a mysterious curiosity and a quiet sense of comfort about him. Depictions of him are found throughout history. Possibly others of you in net.music land have heard of his wanderings. He is timeless. The Dead exude a warm feeling of serene oneness at their shows that is felt by all present. Jerry calls it a magical X-chemistry that has been achieved by the Dead by playing together for so long. The interesting part is that it is transfered to the audience. Drugs may enhance this feeling of oneness for some, yet it is not necesary for all to enjoy this sensation. It can be a pseudo religious experience , similar to conditions invoked by very spiritual meditations. Deadheads have a keen sense of awareness of this. I feel very sorry for people like Rosen who take it upon themselves to disrupt things they can not understand. Narcissism runs rampant in our world and has greatly contributed to the decedance of the West. Rosen probably feels threatened by oneness, and his selfish narrowminded opinions are his only refuge. Materialistic attitudes contribute to his confusion. You deadheads have got to realize that these people with BMW etc. fetishes need mental help. Maybe if they didn't listen to as much of this self destructive and negative hype-"music" they could open their minds and get back to basics. They do have to live with themselves though, and that is punishment enough. Really the joke is on them! This destructive music they pay (financially and mentally) so dearly for is making alot of gimmicky producers and "musicians" (hah) rich....... Ta Ta- It is quite possible that rosen listens to culturally important material and I apologize for any misunderstandings. I do love classical music as well. "I don't know but I've been told in the heat of the sun a man died of cold"
scb@philabs.UUCP (Sean Byrne) (04/10/85)
Sure, it's just great man, take a few hits of this and
groove to the sounds of un-tuned instruments and `musicians'
playing the same 10 songs they've played for the last five
years. Cool. Doesn't matter anyway, you won't remember
what happened the night before, so the next time you hear the
song, it will be a new experience. Wow! Why didn't I think
of that? Hear a song for the first time, blow my brains on
some cool drugs, forget all about it, then next time-- bang!
whole new song! Who needs progressive/new music anyway?
I don't see why there isn't just ONE grateful dead song. It
would be so much cheaper (ie. vinyl, mylar).
Please, someone explain why anyone would go 50 or more (500!)
miles out of their way to go see a `dead' concert. Is it just
some *religious* experience, or maybe something ~more~.
Really, I can't understand the concept of `deadhead', but if
there's a lot of people who like the ~same~ music you like, then
hey great, my ego sure feels good!
I spoke to one of my friends who used to be a deadhead (ie
left school to follow them), and she just was into them coz
it was cool, you know, the thing to do. I'm glad she's grown
up since then, what about the rest of you?
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/ . . . \ EUNET: {prlb2,mcvax,phlash}!philabs!scbcliff@unmvax.UUCP (04/11/85)
> Sure, it's just great man, take a few hits of this and > groove to the sounds of un-tuned instruments and `musicians' > playing the same 10 songs they've played for the last five > years. In 1984 the Dead played 64 shows. In these 64 shows 119 different songs were played 40 of which were played five times or fewer (the breakdown was (10 songs 5 times, 2 songs 4 times, 5 songs 3 times, 9 songs twice and 14 songs were played just once). The rest of your information is just as accurate. I've seen Arlo Guthrie after a span of a couple of years and quite a bit of his performance two years hence was duplicated for the second show. I saw Doc Watson twice in two years and an even larger portion of the show was the same material. I had a great time listening/slamming to X, but it was obvious that they were drawing most of their tunes from their first three albums, which leads me to believe that the rest of their tour would have had quite a bit of duplication. I can see how being totally uninformed can lead you to believe that the Dead must be repeating the same thing (actually I don't believe they have played "The Same Thing" since Pigpen died), but if you are so ignorant, why did you even waste your time posting the article? > Please, someone explain why anyone would go 50 or more (500!) > miles out of their way to go see a `dead' concert. Is it just > some *religious* experience, or maybe something ~more~. For me I use it as a vacation. It lets me get away from the hassles of school and or work, I like to travel, I meet new friends and the concerts always lift my spirits. > Really, I can't understand the concept of `deadhead', but if > there's a lot of people who like the ~same~ music you like, then > hey great, my ego sure feels good! I commend your proper use of the word "can't." I'm glad you didn't sloppily pen "don't," for I might have wasted some of my time attempting to explain. > I spoke to one of my friends who used to be a deadhead (ie > left school to follow them), and she just was into them coz > it was cool, you know, the thing to do. I'm glad she's grown > up since then, what about the rest of you? I'm also glad that she has grown up. There are too few tickets as it is; too bad there are people attending only to be "cool." It seems fairly silly to do anything that you don't enjoy just for appearance. Luckily members of this net don't jump to conclusions and let one person's article or experience represent entire groups of unconnected people, even when that experience (or article) seems to confirm a pet prejudice. --Cliff [Matthews] {purdue, cmcl2, ihnp4}!lanl!unmvax!cliff {csu-cs, pur-ee, convex, gatech, ucbvax}!unmvax!cliff 4744 Trumbull S.E. - Albuquerque NM 87108 - (505) 265-9143
jackson@curium.DEC (Seth Jackson) (04/12/85)
>Summary: ha! > >Sure, it's just great man, take a few hits of this and >groove to the sounds of un-tuned instruments and `musicians' >playing the same 10 songs they've played for the last five >years. Cool. Doesn't matter anyway, you won't remember >what happened the night before, so the next time you hear the >song, it will be a new experience. Wow! Why didn't I think >of that? Hear a song for the first time, blow my brains on >some cool drugs, forget all about it, then next time-- bang! >whole new song! Who needs progressive/new music anyway? > >I don't see why there isn't just ONE grateful dead song. It >would be so much cheaper (ie. vinyl, mylar). > >Please, someone explain why anyone would go 50 or more (500!) >miles out of their way to go see a `dead' concert. Is it just >some *religious* experience, or maybe something ~more~. > >Really, I can't understand the concept of `deadhead', but if >there's a lot of people who like the ~same~ music you like, then >hey great, my ego sure feels good! Hey, I'll bet you just couldn't wait to be flamed for this one! What other reason could you have had for posting this garbage, other than that you knew you would grab some attention by pissing off some Deadheads? Certainly you're not the kind of person who goes around making ridiculous statements about things you know nothing about. Or are you? >I spoke to one of my friends who used to be a deadhead (ie >left school to follow them), and she just was into them coz >it was cool, you know, the thing to do. I'm glad she's grown >up since then, what about the rest of you? > I used to go to Dead concerts because I loved the music and the people and the atmosphere and the ideals represented there. But I've grown up, too. Now I go to Dead concerts because I love the music and the people and the atmosphere and the ideals represented there. How about you? >-- >USENET- .... Sean Byrne > __ "We used to play for silver, now we play for life..." Seth Jackson dec-curium!jackson