PAWKA@NOSC-TECR (12/07/84)
>> 'How do I apply for membership in the "Stamp Out BASIC >> Committee"?' >>> Yeah! Stamp out BASIC! Here at Tektronix we stamp out lots of BASICs >>> every day, some in ROMs and some on disks. We sell them to >>> applications programmers and make piles of money. This is the key to the problem with "Stamping" out BASIC, FORTRAN, or whatever. As long as there are applications programmers there will be such "languages??". I suggest the formation of a "STAMP OUT APPLICATIONS PROGRAMMERS" committee, Mike [If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost.] ------
ndiamond@watdaisy.UUCP (Norman Diamond) (12/09/84)
>>> 'How do I apply for membership in the "Stamp Out BASIC >>> Committee"?' >> >> Yeah! Stamp out BASIC! Here at Tektronix we stamp out lots of BASICs >> every day, some in ROMs and some on disks. We sell them to >> applications programmers and make piles of money. > > This is the key to the problem with "Stamping" out BASIC, FORTRAN, > or whatever. As long as there are applications programmers there will be > such "languages??". I suggest the formation of a "STAMP OUT APPLICATIONS > PROGRAMMERS" committee, Stamp out all requirements for computers! -- Norman Diamond UUCP: {decvax|utzoo|ihnp4|allegra|clyde}!watmath!watdaisy!ndiamond CSNET: ndiamond%watdaisy@waterloo.csnet ARPA: ndiamond%watdaisy%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa "Opinions are those of the keyboard, and do not reflect on me or higher-ups."
rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (12/14/84)
[Not that much about BASIC, really...] > ... > >>> Yeah! Stamp out BASIC! Here at Tektronix we stamp out lots of BASICs > >>> every day, some in ROMs and some on disks. We sell them to > >>> applications programmers and make piles of money. Yeah, and you occasionally don't hide them too well, which is good for grins. Some while ago I had an opportunity to poke at a gadget which Tek makes that's used for looking at TV broadcast signal waveforms. Although it was really presented as a packaged tool, it was pretty evident from its behavior that it had the standard little-BASIC system inside. A few attempts at commands dredged from my memory of old GE timeshare BASIC got a (squashed) listing of the program for the sampling. It took a total of perhaps half an hour to have the box drawing pretty spirals and such instead of silly-looking waveforms. No complaints really (the original program was still in non-volatile memory), but I don't think that a small BASIC interpreter is the best way to build an embedded system. -- Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 ...Are you making this up as you go along?
arnold@gatech.UUCP (Arnold Robbins) (12/14/84)
> >> 'How do I apply for membership in the "Stamp Out BASIC > >> Committee"?' > > >>> Yeah! Stamp out BASIC! Here at Tektronix we stamp out lots of BASICs > >>> every day, some in ROMs and some on disks. We sell them to > >>> applications programmers and make piles of money. > > This is the key to the problem with "Stamping" out BASIC, FORTRAN, > or whatever. As long as there are applications programmers there will be > such "languages??". I suggest the formation of a "STAMP OUT APPLICATIONS > PROGRAMMERS" committee, We all know what the real problem is, don't we? Applications programmers are just a symptom of the disease. The real problem is the USER!! If it weren't for USERS there wouldn't be APPLICATIONS PROGRAMMERS, and then there wouldn't be BASIC and FORTRAN. I suggest we form a "STAMP OUT USERS" committee, and then all of us *Real Programmers* can get back to our hacking in peace! (All of this is tongue in cheek, of course. "Doesn't EVERYONE know that you have to hit the return key to get the computer to do something?!") -- Arnold Robbins CSNET: arnold@gatech ARPA: arnold%gatech.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa UUCP: { akgua, allegra, hplabs, ihnp4, seismo, ut-sally, }!gatech!arnold Help advance the state of Computer Science: Nuke a PR1ME today!