bjorn@dataio.UUCP (Bjorn Benson) (06/03/85)
Enough is enough!!! I propose that we start a new newsgroup "net.micro.68vs286" so that all you people who enjoy discussing benchmarks, registers, segments, clock cycles and other marketing hype can do so away from the rest of us. I am member of the user community, not the argueing community. Bjorn Benson ..!uw-beaver!entropy!dataio!bjorn
bill@persci.UUCP (06/04/85)
>Enough is enough!!! > >I propose that we start a new newsgroup "net.micro.68vs286" so that >all you people who enjoy discussing benchmarks, registers, segments, >clock cycles and other marketing hype can do so away from the rest of >us. I am member of the user community, not the argueing community. > > Bjorn Benson > ..!uw-beaver!entropy!dataio!bjorn I second the motion!! I am just about ready to unsubscribe from this group. (Perhaps it should be called net.flame.micro :-) -- Bill Swan {ihnp4,decvax,allegra,...}!uw-beaver!tikal!persci!bill
srm@nsc.UUCP (Richard Mateosian) (06/07/85)
In article <675@dataio.UUCP> bjorn@dataio.UUCP (Bjorn Benson) writes: > >I propose that we start a new newsgroup "net.micro.68vs286" so that >all you people who enjoy discussing benchmarks, registers, segments, >clock cycles and other marketing hype can do so away from the rest of >us. I second the motion--only let's call it net.micro.compet. I think that there is a legitimate place on the net for discussion of the pros and cons of various architectures/implementations, and I think that the people who just want solid technical info about their specific micro/language ought to be able to read the appropriate newsgroup without having to wade through the competitive material. -- Richard Mateosian {cbosgd,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!srm nsc!srm@decwrl.ARPA
nather@utastro.UUCP (Ed Nather) (06/07/85)
> In article <675@dataio.UUCP> bjorn@dataio.UUCP (Bjorn Benson) writes: > > > >I propose that we start a new newsgroup "net.micro.68vs286" so that > >all you people who enjoy discussing benchmarks, registers, segments, > >clock cycles and other marketing hype can do so away from the rest of > >us. > > I second the motion--only let's call it net.micro.compet. I think that > there is a legitimate place on the net for discussion of the pros and cons > of various architectures/implementations, and I think that the people who > just want solid technical info about their specific micro/language ought > to be able to read the appropriate newsgroup without having to wade through > the competitive material. > -- > Richard Mateosian I thought that's what net.arch was for in the first place. It's why I read it. There is no better way to learn details of the "uglies" in a particular architecture, and their consequences, than to read a debate by two competitors. I say, let the flames roll on ... -- Ed Nather Astronony Dept, U of Texas @ Austin {allegra,ihnp4}!{noao,ut-sally}!utastro!nather nather%utastro.UTEXAS@ut-sally.ARPA
clif@intelca.UUCP (Clif Purkiser) (06/07/85)
> Enough is enough!!! > > I propose that we start a new newsgroup "net.micro.68vs286" so that > all you people who enjoy discussing benchmarks, registers, segments, > clock cycles and other marketing hype can do so away from the rest of > us. I am member of the user community, not the argueing community. > > Bjorn Benson > ..!uw-beaver!entropy!dataio!bjorn I think Bjorn is correct in fairness to all of the people who don't care how fast or slow (in the case of the 680xx or 320xx) a manufacturer's processor is. I think we shouldn't limit it just to the 80286 vs the 68020, so why not call it net.micro.benchmarks. -- Clif Purkiser, Intel, Santa Clara, Ca. HIGH PERFORMANCE MICROPROCESSORS {pur-ee,hplabs,amd,scgvaxd,dual,idi,omsvax}!intelca!clif {standard disclaimer about how these views are mine and may not reflect the views of Intel, my boss , or USNET goes here. }
jty@tut.UUCP (Jyrki Yli-Nokari) (06/10/85)
In article <persci.182> bill@persci.UUCP writes: >>Enough is enough!!! >> Sure is!! >>I propose that we start a new newsgroup "net.micro.68vs286" so that.. >I second the motion!! I am just about ready to unsubscribe from this group. 3 votes from jty jv and hmj@tut.UUCP >(Perhaps it should be called net.flame.micro :-) Yes! Or move the whole discussion to net.flame. It really belongs there! -- FORTH makes my days! ...mcvax!tut!jty Jyrki Yli-Nokari N 61 26' E 23 50' +358 31 162590, home +358 31 178833
brooks@lll-crg.ARPA (Eugene D. Brooks III) (06/12/85)
Is there a way to have vnews skip items such as the N'th iteration on something as the 286 vs 68k battle? I can't take it any more! My line is only 1200 baud and n just doesn't work that fast. Help in this matter would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Eugene
dibble@rochester.UUCP (06/12/85)
> Or move the whole discussion to net.flame. It really belongs there!
I find the discussion at least a little informative. True, there is more
noise than light but even the noise is sort of fun. The participants in
the discussion are polite and present organized (if biased) arguments.
In this discussion I've seen the first information I've encountered about
the 80386.
I like seeing people who seem to know discuss the rational behind the design
for the 8086.
If this information about microprocessors and computer architecture was
mixed with the junk on net.flame, I'd never see it.
These notes are clearly marked by the subject line. When I get bored of this
discussion I'll stop reading them.
Finally if the discussion of the merits of microprocessors is moved to
a separate news group the lack of this critical audience would probably
either make the contestants shut up or sink to simple name calling.
I say: keep them here where we can keep an eye on them.
bc@cyb-eng.UUCP (Bill Crews) (06/15/85)
> I say: keep them here where we can keep an eye on them.
But what on Earth does this have to do with net.lang.c, from which I am now
responding? net.micro and net.arch, yes, maybe; but please spare the rest
of us.
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