cottrell@NBS-VMS.ARPA (COTTRELL, JAMES) (02/27/86)
/* I tried to mail this to mod.std.c, but I forgot their address, and both permutations I tried didn't work, so here it is worldwide! To The Authorities: Here is a message I received about my posting on the ANSI C Draft. Please give it due consideration: Return-Path: <KLH@SRI-NIC.ARPA> Received: from SRI-NIC.ARPA by NBS-VMS.ARPA ; 23 Feb 86 19:27:27 EST Date: Fri 21 Feb 86 15:03:34-PST From: Ken Harrenstien <KLH@SRI-NIC.ARPA> Subject: ANSI C Draft To: cottrell@NBS-VMS.ARPA cc: KLH@SRI-NIC.ARPA In-Reply-To: Message from ""COTTRELL, JAMES" <cottrell@nbs-vms.arpa>" of Thu 6 Feb 86 14:34:00-PST Message-ID: <12185229280.26.KLH@SRI-NIC.ARPA> I noticed your message about the ANSI C standard draft. I don't know who you were replying to, as I don't follow INFO-C all of the time (most of it is irrelevant). However, I can say that the NIC would be happy to make any such on-line documents available to the Internet community at large, just as we do for RFCs. We also have OCR hardware for scanning paper documents to convert them into on-line form, and could readily do this for the ANSI C standard drafts if they are not too complex graphically. All that is needed is agreement. I share your feelings about the absurdity of asking for comments in an electronic medium about a document that presumably is also created electronically, and then refusing to provide it in any form other than hard-copy. A handling charge for paper is understandable (even the NIC now does this) but the cost and the way they have set things up makes them look pretty bad. If you can give me the appropriate address or phone number of someone to contact, we will try to arrange something. --Ken ------- Yours Truly, jim cottrell@nbs */ ------
jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) (03/12/86)
I'm amazed that there isn't any more support for putting the
ANSI C draft on the NIC (Network Information Centre). This
is a great way to make it available to half the community,
who can then mail it to the other half. Let's do it!
Jim Cottrell, apologies for anything nasty I ever said or will
say about you! [;-)]
--
Joe Yao hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP}gaspar@ALMSA-1.ARPA (Al Gaspar) (03/14/86)
I agree. It would be nice to have it out there. We might eliminate some of the postings that ask what the ANSI Standard says :-). Al Gaspar <gaspar@almsa-1.arpa> USAMC ALMSA, ATTN: AMXAL-OW, Box 1578, St. Louis, MO 63188-1578 COMMERCIAL: (314) 263-5118 AUTOVON: 693-5118 seismo!gaspar@almsa-1.arpa
woody%Juliet.Caltech.Edu@cit-hamlet.ARPA (03/14/86)
Yeah, I'm all for posting the ANSI C Draft out there--then I'll know what
all the shootin' is about!
- William Woody
NET Woody%Romeo@Hamlet.Caltech.Edu
USNAIL 1-54 Lloyd, Caltech / Pasadena, CA 91126meissner@dg_rtp.UUCP (Michael Meissner) (04/01/86)
In article <296@hadron.UUCP> jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) writes: >I'm amazed that there isn't any more support for putting the >ANSI C draft on the NIC (Network Information Centre). This >is a great way to make it available to half the community, >who can then mail it to the other half. Let's do it! The ANSI X3J11 committee looked at doing this, but we can't for political reasons. Namely, one of the parent committees, which has veto control over the standards process, gets it's money by selling copies of the standards and draft standards.
rbj@icst-cmr (Root Boy Jim) (04/09/86)
In article <296@hadron.UUCP> jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao) writes: >I'm amazed that there isn't any more support for putting the >ANSI C draft on the NIC (Network Information Centre). This >is a great way to make it available to half the community, >who can then mail it to the other half. Let's do it! The ANSI X3J11 committee looked at doing this, but we can't for political reasons. Namely, one of the parent committees, which has veto control over the standards process, gets it's money by selling copies of the standards and draft standards. As the one who started this, *that's* what I'm complaining about. If you want people to follow standards, make them available. For Free. Larry Rosler offered free copies once, and delivered. I can't believe said committee gets ALL of its money from sales. What percentage of it's funding comes from sales, and where does the rest of it come from? (Root Boy) Jim Cottrell <rbj@cmr> Baseball in D.C. in `87!