roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) (07/27/86)
In article <5530@sun.uucp> guy@sun.UUCP writes: [Regarding the 4.3 *and* Sys5 getopt(3) man pages being wrong] > Read the code, not the manual page! That this should have to be the case is perhaps the strongest reason why I wouldn't consider buying a system without source (when we recently had to decide between Sun and Sequent, Sequent lost largely because they wouldn't release source for a reasonable price). This is also on of the strongest reasons why I don't think Unix is really going to make it as a commercial system (the current rash of commercial ports of Unix notwithstanding). -- Roy Smith, {allegra,philabs}!phri!roy System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
mouse@mcgill-vision.UUCP (08/09/86)
In article <2402@phri.UUCP>, roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes: > In article <5530@sun.uucp> guy@sun.UUCP writes: > [Regarding the 4.3 *and* Sys5 getopt(3) man pages being wrong] >> Read the code, not the manual page! > [this is why we demand source with a system] (when we recently had to > decide between Sun and Sequent, Sequent lost largely because they > wouldn't release source for a reasonable price). Does Sun? We are a university. We bought source from Sun. We were given the impression that the tapes contained full source (it was a "university package" or some such). Second time I look at it, it's to fix a bug in the pixrect library. There's no source to the pixrect library! Turns out there's no source to dbx, cc, or pc as well. It seems this is barely a skeleton system! They want to gouge us some $K ($1K-$10K, I forget) for 7 "packages" (pixrect, cc, etc). Suddenly a MicroVAX with 4.[23] looks much more attractive.... What I consider slimy is that we were given the impression (I don't know whether we were told outright) that the first tape was full source. I just hope we *were* told so, in writing.... By the way, the bug in the pixrect library is that depth=1 pixrects ignore the "reverse video" flag on a pr_put()....anybody got a fix? -- der Mouse USA: {ihnp4,decvax,akgua,utzoo,etc}!utcsri!mcgill-vision!mouse think!mosart!mcgill-vision!mouse Europe: mcvax!decvax!utcsri!mcgill-vision!mouse ARPAnet: utcsri!mcgill-vision!mouse@uw-beaver.arpa "Come with me a few minutes, mortal, and we shall talk." - Thanatos (Piers Anthony's Bearing an Hourglass)