7995pk13@sjuvax.UUCP (kirsch) (03/21/85)
I see that someone already mentioned The Cure as a good depressing band.
I saw them in NYC and they were incredible. Has anyone heard their new
live album "Concert"? It's only available as an import here in Phila. and
I'm reluctant to buy it until I get an idea of what it's like. If I were
going to reccommend a Cure album it would definitely be "Pornography". I think
100 years is their best song.
As far as other depressing bands go I've never heard them but a band
called "Section 25" is supposed to sound like Joy Division. (They're on the
same label). Also a weirder but still somewhat depressing band is 'Bauhaus'.
A few more: Echo and the Bunnymen, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Smiths...
if you'd like more info send me mail.
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Paul Kirsch St. Joseph's Univ.
{allegra | astrovax | bpa | burdvax}!sjuvax!7995pk13 Phila., Pa.
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================================================================================rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (03/25/85)
Someone already mentioned the album Howard Devoto did with the Cocteau Twins and others (name forgotten), along with the Cure, Joy Division, Siouxsie & the Banshees, and the Smiths (who offer JD-esque depression with an almost happy-go-lucky sound; exception: How Soon is Now?, which is an incredible neo-psychedelic wash). There is a new band called Red Lorry Yellow Lorry who are supposed to be the heirs to JD's crown of ultimate angstmusik. My friend saw them play in NYC and liked them a lot (this is a person for whom angstmusik is everything, from Robert Wyatt to Pere Ubu to Joy Division, thus I'd call him an authority on the genre). I don't know if they have a record out yet, but they are worth looking for. -- "Right now it's only a notion, but I'm hoping to turn it into an idea, and if I get enough money I can make it into a concept." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
sbt@cbosgd.UUCP (Shirley B. Tobias) (03/27/85)
> > There is a new band called Red Lorry Yellow Lorry who are supposed to be > the heirs to JD's crown of ultimate angstmusik. My friend saw them play > in NYC and liked them a lot (this is a person for whom angstmusik is > everything, from Robert Wyatt to Pere Ubu to Joy Division, thus I'd call > him an authority on the genre). I don't know if they have a record out > yet, but they are worth looking for. > -- Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr RLYL has an EP titled "Hollow Eyes" and a new LP, "Monkeys on Juice"-- off the top of my head i think they're on cherry red but don't quote me. there's also another EP somewhere. get them all. > < > --Shirley < > ihnp4!cbosgd!sbt < > Bell Labs, Columbus, OH < > < > "I'm looking for the joke with a microscope. . " < > < ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
markb@druri.UUCP (BryantME) (03/27/85)
> As far as other depressing bands go I've never heard them but a band > called "Section 25" is supposed to sound like Joy Division. (They're on the > same label). Yes, Section 25 is on Factory records (as are Joy Division). Their sound, however, is much more like later New Order material (which is the band that Joy Division evolved into). With female lead vocals. It is good music, but I would not consider it Dirge music. Another band with this kind of sound is "A Popular History of Signs". Their album "Comrades" (on Wax Trax records) sounds a lot like New Order "Power, Corruption and Lies". I do find Echo and the Bunnymen and the Cure to be depressing at times, but listening to The Smiths puts a smile on my face. With lyrics like "I'm not looking for a lover, I just want to be tied to the back of your car" (from "You've Got Everything Now"), I can't help but smile. Mark Bryant AT&T Information Systems, Denver CO ihnp4!druri!markb
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (03/28/85)
>> As far as other depressing bands go I've never heard them but a band >>called "Section 25" is supposed to sound like Joy Division. (They're on the >>same label). > Yes, Section 25 is on Factory records (as are Joy Division). Their sound, > however, is much more like later New Order material (which is the band that > Joy Division evolved into). With female lead vocals. It is good music, > but I would not consider it Dirge music. [MARK BRYANT] Factory Records used to be a repository for dirge music bands, Section 25 and Stockholm Monsters among them. The one man responsible for producing most of these records is Martin Hannett. Hannett has produced Joy Division, Section 25, Stockholm Monsters, as well as early Psychedelic Furs (I think Sister Europe and other songs from that first record), and (under the name Martin Zero) OMD's classic ditty "Electricity". > I do find Echo and the Bunnymen and the Cure to be depressing at times, > but listening to The Smiths puts a smile on my face. With lyrics like > "I'm not looking for a lover, I just want to be tied to the back of > your car" (from "You've Got Everything Now"), I can't help but smile. There's something about the Smiths. Though Morrissey's lyrics are oftimes quite openly gay-oriented, he often comes through with statements that are universally poignant ("I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does" from How Soon is Now?). And the ever popular... -- "Does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body? I dunno." Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
bub@ames.UUCP (Bubbette McLeod) (03/29/85)
> Also a weirder but still somewhat depressing band is 'Bauhaus'.
Have any of you gotten into Tones On Tail? Two guys from the now defunct
Bauhaus are in it. Performance is the song that's gotten the most
non-commercial radio station airplay around here (Northern Ca.).
As far as I know, they don't get ANY commercial airplay (like lots of the
good stuff). I particularly like Rain, the long song on the second side
of their album POP. Unfortunately, I got into them about 3 weeks after
they played S.F., and I DON'T thing they're a band that tours very often.
How about a review, Rosen? I know you're a recent convert.
Bub
{allegra, decwrl, dual, ihnp4,}!ames!bub or ames!bub@riacsjcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) (04/01/85)
> and Stockholm Monsters among them. The one man responsible for producing > most of these records is Martin Hannett. Hannett has produced Joy > Division, Section 25, Stockholm Monsters, as well as early Psychedelic > Furs (I think Sister Europe and other songs from that first record), and > Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr Steve Lillywhite produced the first two P-furs albums. He produced *all* the songs on the import version of the first album, and Hannet produced two songs on the domestic version, which was released here about five months later. The songs were "Soap Commercial" and "Susan's Strange" (neither of which appears on the import, which features "Blacks/Radio" instead). ps. refering to a previous message, could you be confusing *Joe* Morrissey with *Paul* Morley at NME ? -- jcpatilla "'Get stuffed !', the Harlequin replied ..."
strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) (04/03/85)
>> Also a weirder but still somewhat depressing band is 'Bauhaus'. > >Have any of you gotten into Tones On Tail? Two guys from the now defunct >Bauhaus are in it. Performance is the song that's gotten the most >non-commercial radio station airplay around here (Northern Ca.). Yeah, I bought a 45 by Tones On Tail. The A side has a wispy song called Lions (which I listened to only 2 or 3 times). The B side is instantly likeable, its called GO! Its got a heavy synth bass, its rougher than the A side, and its highly danceable. The only other song of theirs I've heard is "OK This is the Pops" which I like. I couldn't find it as a single, is it on an album?
abh6509@ritcv.UUCP (A.Hudson) (04/08/85)
> >> Also a weirder but still somewhat depressing band is 'Bauhaus'. > > > >Have any of you gotten into Tones On Tail? Two guys from the now defunct > >Bauhaus are in it. Performance is the song that's gotten the most > >non-commercial radio station airplay around here (Northern Ca.). Tones on Tail have an album, "POP!". The album is hardly pop and I liken it very much to certain older aspects of Bauhaus. It has some pretty intense interludes. These guys toured the US earlier this year. Another former member of Bauhaus is singing for Dali's Car. This is an amalgamation of Japan and him and sounds like Japan but with a Bauhaus singer. I always thought Japan was a little too slick but some feel it has pop appeal. The third and possibly best spinter of Bauhaus is Davis J. He currently has a 45 out, "I Can't Shake This Shadow of Fear". The song and songwriting reflect the genius that once was Bauhaus. One can only hope that he will follow with an album of equal intensity. Rumor dept: Bauhaus may be reforming.
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (04/09/85)
>> Also a weirder but still somewhat depressing band is 'Bauhaus'. > > Have any of you gotten into Tones On Tail? Two guys from the now defunct > Bauhaus are in it. Performance is the song that's gotten the most > non-commercial radio station airplay around here (Northern Ca.). > As far as I know, they don't get ANY commercial airplay (like lots of the > good stuff). I particularly like Rain, the long song on the second side > of their album POP. Unfortunately, I got into them about 3 weeks after > they played S.F., and I DON'T thing they're a band that tours very often. > > How about a review, Rosen? I know you're a recent convert. > > Bub {allegra, decwrl, dual, ihnp4,}!ames!bub or ames!bub@riacs Well, I never really thought of Tones on Tail as "dirge music" in the pure sense. They're very "atmosphery", and the atmosphere they produce varies from slow repetitive drones (with an admittedly dirgey edge) to biting hard driving sounds like "Performance" (from POP) and "Go" (the B-side of their latest single). I tried classifying them as a combination of Violent Femmes (or at least what I had expected VF to be like after hearing "Gone Daddy Gone"), Siouxsie & the Banshees, the "kinky" arrangements of the Residents, and who knows what else, but as with all really good new sounds classifying them was a fruitless effort. Suffice to say that they are both very interesting and very exciting to listen to. I have the album "POP" on tape (Thanks, Bubbette!) and I've heard "GO" and I'm anxious to get the chance to hear some more. -- "When you believe in things that you don't understand, you'll suffer. Superstition ain't the way." - Stevie Wonder ("Superstition") Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
hall@beta.DEC (DAN HALL DTN 264-5879) (04/12/85)
> >Another former member of Bauhaus is singing for Dali's Car. > >This is an amalgamation of Japan and him and sounds like Japan > >but with a Bauhaus singer. I always thought Japan was a little too > >slick but some feel it has pop appeal. Dalis Car is vocalist Peter Murphy from Bauhaus and bassist Mick Karn from Japan. Karn plays most of the instruments on their debut album "The Waking Hour". I don't think it sounds like Bauhaus or Japan. Listen to Karn's new album "Titles": it sounds like that without Murphy's vocals. Also ex-Japan members Steve Jansen and Richard Barbieri play on "Titles", but it still doesn't sound like Japan without David Sylvian's vocals. Someone mentioned "Soul Awakening" by The The as good dirge music. Actually, the music is fairly upbeat but the lyrics are depressing. Matt Johnson, who is The The, released an album before that on 4AD records called "Burning Blue Soul" that sounds much more dismal, closer to what Bauhaus was doing. Dan Hall decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-beta!hall How can anyone know me when I don't even know myself? - The The
hall@beta.DEC (DAN HALL DTN 264-5879) (04/15/85)
...from my posting 12-Apr-85,
> Also, someone mentioned "Soul Awakening" by The The
Sorry, that's "Soul Mining".
Dan Hall
decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-beta!hallgtaylor@lasspvax.UUCP (Greg Taylor) (04/16/85)
In article <> hall@beta.DEC (DAN HALL DTN 264-5879) writes: > >Dalis Car is vocalist Peter Murphy from Bauhaus and bassist Mick Karn >from Japan. Karn plays most of the instruments on their debut album >"The Waking Hour". I don't think it sounds like Bauhaus or Japan. >Listen to Karn's new album "Titles": it sounds like that without >Murphy's vocals. Also ex-Japan members Steve Jansen and Richard >Barbieri play on "Titles", but it still doesn't sound like Japan >without David Sylvian's vocals. Let's get more specific here. Mick Karn's solo album is composed of one side of pretty Japan-esque sounding stuff (that is, lot of woody and bell-like timbres from the Prophet over an open rhythmic vamp that winds up as a four against some ethnic sounding syncopation) with Karn's fretless bass mixed forward. It's pretty nice for what it is: fourth-wave ethno pop in search of a singer. The second side is the stuff that might remind you the Peter Murphy stuff-longer, dronier pieces of Bauhausish stuff. Unfortunately for Karn's solo album, the vocalists (and Karn does a bit of it himself) are miserable-a kind of reedy whine that only works on the Near-Eastern flavoured cover of that old religious chestnut "Savior, are you with me?" Dan's right though-the thing that really marks Dali's car is Peter's voice, in the same sense that Sylvian's voice marks the Japan stuff. Mick Karn has a single out with Midge Ure of Ultravox as well. I picked up the Karn in the cutout bin, so keep thine eyes peeled. While you're at it, check out David Sylvian's solo "Brilliant Trees" w/Jon Hassel and Riuchi Sakamoto and Holger Czukay. -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Once I was young:once I was smart:now I'm living on the edge of my nerves:-Japan Gregory Alan Taylor:162 Clark Hall:Cornell University:Ithaca,NY 14850:USA USENET: {cmcl2,decvax,ihnp4}!cornell!lasspvax!gtaylor ARPANET: gtaylor@lasspvax.arpa BITNET: gtaylor@crnlthry.bitnet ________________________________________________________________________________
bub@ames.UUCP (Bubbette McLeod) (04/17/85)
> Yeah, I bought a 45 by Tones On Tail. ........ The only other song > of theirs I've heard is "OK This is the Pops" which I like. I couldn't > find it as a single, is it on an album? The song is on an import album called There's Only One Tones On Tail which appears to be a collection of singles and/or EPs since different songs are credited to different recording companies on different dates. I found it at Palo Alto Tower Records, so other Towers probably carry it. Bub