[net.lang.pascal] Pascal compilers for the Mac?

gjb@unirot.UUCP (Greg Brail) (12/15/85)

	I have been wondering if there are any decent Pascal
compilers for the Mac. I know of MacPascal, but that's interpreted. I
also know of a p-system, but I forget who makes it. Is there a good
Pascal compiler for the Mac that produces object code? Even something
that compiles MacPascal would work fine. I wouldn't mind sticking
with MacPascal for development, then compiling it when I'm done (or
when I'm sick of waiting :-). If such a product exists, could someone
send me a pointer. Thanks in advance.

			-Greg
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abe@pucc-j (Vic Abell) (12/18/85)

In article <246@unirot.UUCP> gjb@unirot.UUCP (Greg Brail) writes:
>
>	I have been wondering if there are any decent Pascal
>compilers for the Mac. . .

There is an excellent Pascal development system for the Macintosh
available from TML Systems.  I haven't found anything described in
Chernicoff's books that can be done on the Lisa development system
that can't be done with TML Pascal.  It's reasonably priced, comes
with the standard MDS editor, linker, Rmaker and lots of examples.
It costs $99.95 + $5.00 shipping.  You can order it from:

			TML Systems
			P. O. Box 361626
			Melbourne, FL 32936
			(305) 242-1873

Vic Abell, abe@asc.purdue.edu, ...|pur-ee!pucc-j!abe

dws@tolerant.UUCP (Dave W. Smith) (12/18/85)

In article <246@unirot.UUCP> gjb@unirot.UUCP (Greg Brail) writes:
>	I have been wondering if there are any decent Pascal
>compilers for the Mac.
...
>			-Greg

Though I have not tried it personally, I've seen things done with TML
Pascal, and talked with people who've converted large LisaPascal programs
to TML (and were very happy with the results).

Also, MacTutor magazine thinks enough of TML to sell it directly (as
well as printing some articles about how to do interesting things in TML).
Sorry, no address handy, though you should be able to find one in either
MacTutor, MacWorld, or MacUser.
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gjb@unirot.UUCP (Greg Brail) (12/22/85)

	In response to my query about Pascal compilers for the Mac, I
received several responses, all of which recommended one compiler,
the MacLanguage series, from:

	TML Systems
	PO Box. 361626
	Melbourne, FL  32936
	(305) 242-1873

	For  $99.95  +  $5.00  shipping,  the compiler  is claimed to
	produce real object code or  Apple MDS  assembler output, has
	full toolbox support, and will  create desk  accessories.  It
	compiles at 1000 lines/minute, and  is said  to be compatible
	with Mac and Lisa Pascal,  although someone  claimed this was
	not  entirely  true.    It  also supports  "3D QuickDraw" and
	"Macintalk speech synthesis," according to one user.

	As far as benchmarks are comcerned, another user claimed that
	it  compiles  about as  fast as  MegaMax or  Consulair C, and
	produces about the same size code, and runs at about the same
	speed.  However, the floating  point benchmark,  which ran in
	268.22 seconds on Aztec C (the fastest C) ran  in 149.03 sec.
	in TML Pascal, and the QuickSort ran in 18 sec, while most Cs
	clocked in at over 60.

	The  program  comes  with  MDS  Edit, MDS  linker, a resource
	editor  (resedit),  sample  sources, and  about 400  pgs.  of
	documentation  (which  has no  index.)   It also  has no copy
	protection or secondaryt licensing fees.

	This sounds like a good product which is worth the money.  So
	far, no one has mentioned  any serious  shortcomings or bugs.
	I think I might buy a copy.

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	As  usual, I have absolutely nothing to do with TML Systems.
I'm just telling you what I heard.

					-Greg
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franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) (12/27/85)

In article <257@unirot.UUCP> gjb@unirot.UUCP (Greg Brail) writes:
>	For  $99.95  +  $5.00  shipping,  the compiler  is claimed to
>	produce real object code or  Apple MDS  assembler output, has
>	full toolbox support, and will  create desk  accessories.

A compiler which creates desk accessories!  What will they think of next? :-)

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