[net.music] Are the Dead a political band?

jackson@curium.DEC (Seth Jackson) (04/16/85)

>     Now we are finding political messages in their song.  I should have
>said blatent political messages, I believe that their lyrics have always
>been political in a positive sence all along, but on a alegorical level.
>One of their latest songs, "Throwing Stones" is and obvious anti-nuclear
>war song.

I disagree with the statement that "Throwing Stones" is an anti-nuclear
war song. The song is a commentary on the state of the world. It addresses
poverty, greed, petty politics, selfishness, power, racism, war (conventional
and nuclear), religion, and, most of all, unrealized human potential.

I consider the Dead to be apolitical, even in light of songs like 
"Throwin' Stones". The purpose of this song is to raise awareness, 
to express alarm, and also to express hope. However, as always, 
they refrain from preaching any particular point of view.

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"Picture a bright blue ball a-spinning, spinning free...
 It's dizzying, the possibilities"

				Seth Jackson
				dec-curium!jackson

nm34@sdcc12.UUCP (nm34) (04/17/85)

In article <1688@decwrl.UUCP>, jackson@curium.DEC (Seth Jackson) writes:
> >     Now we are finding political messages in their song.  I should have
> >said blatent political messages, I believe that their lyrics have always
> >been political in a positive sence all along, but on a alegorical level.
> >One of their latest songs, "Throwing Stones" is and obvious anti-nuclear
> >war song.
> 
> I disagree with the statement that "Throwing Stones" is an anti-nuclear
> war song. The song is a commentary on the state of the world. It addresses
> poverty, greed, petty politics, selfishness, power, racism, war (conventional
> and nuclear), religion, and, most of all, unrealized human potential.
> 
> I consider the Dead to be apolitical, even in light of songs like 
> "Throwin' Stones". The purpose of this song is to raise awareness, 
> to express alarm, and also to express hope. However, as always, 
> they refrain from preaching any particular point of view.
> 

     Since I dont know all of the words to "Throwing Stones" I am not
sure of the meaning or intent of the song.  I get the feeling when I
hear it that the song is an opposition to all of the
wasteful aspects of our society as you describe above. Based of the
refrain which is repeated throughout the song "Ashes, Ashes all fall
down" I think the focus is the foolishness of our spending so much of
our resources on nuclear and other weapons and not on the problems you describe
above.  I have to disagree with you when you say that the song is not
political.  I guess we are arguing about the definition of "politcal
music".  To me political music is music concerned with or opposed to
government or societal policy.  In this way the song is definitely
political.  

     I agree the Dead have traditionally been apolitical and I think
that this song is a welcome change.

                          - Andy Bindman