[net.mail] uucp domain naming

CSvax:jrs (11/02/82)

Somehow, this discussion on naming is very reminiscent of the
Usenet naming discussion some months back.  Does anyone have
an archive of the names proposed at that time?? It may or may
not have relavence to a new name search.

Personnaly, I think the domain name of UUCP is VERY appropriate.
Granted, many machines on the net (including my own pucc-* sites)
are connected by some local network other than uucp.

BUT...

The primary transport mechaninsm between these local groups is UUCP.

The local networks (of whatever flavor) are actually sub-nets dependent
and the backbone of machines running UUCP for transport of traffic
to other sites.  Therefore, UUCP is the proper name for a domain that
encompasses these relatively small local networks.  If these local
networks connect to ARPA, CSnet, Phonenet, ETnet, or whatever, then
they would be sub-domains of those networks.  But, as long as the
backbone they depend on is running UUCP, then they are part of the
UUCP domain.

				- Jeff Schwab
				  Purdue University Computing Center
				  < purdue!jrs | pur-ee!pucc-h:acg >

mel (11/02/82)

What in the world are you all talking about ???   A letter mailed to me
has nothing whatever on it telling who does the delivering.  If U.S.Mail
or United Parcel or the local newsboy or a friend or gutter salesman or
whoever wants me, they put 205 Cambridge Ave., .... on the envelope.  If
someone wants to call me they dial my number, if they want the call to
start out with MCI rather than Bell they may put on a prefix, but that
doesn't concern me or my address.  My UNIX mail comes to me via several
networks.  Which one would you attach to the address ??  Why ??  If the
ARPANET sponsors want to keep their users isolated, that's their business
and their right (although a waste of my tax-payer dollars, and mighty
unsociable).  I don't see why the rest of us have to be isolated by a
poor choice of address format.  Please set up the mail address from
the user's point of view, not that of present routing restrictions.
    Mel Haas   ,    houxm!mel

bstempleton (11/03/82)

Where do you people get the idea that we are looking for a network name?
I think the whole point is we are not trying to name a network, we're naming
a collection of machines that get mail, namely what we're calling a
domain.   It was suggested that uucp is as good a name as any, ignoring
its other, soon to vanish, connotation.  I think it's a rather silly and
difficult to say name, myself.  Perhaps this is something we really can
submit to a vote.  Announce on net.general about the vote, and get a user
that can be trusted to receive the votes.  To be simple, set up an alias
somewhere like ucbvax and just reads the mail message and looks for the
first line of the form:
Choice: string
and concatenates that line to file "string" somewhere.
wc can then count the votes.  This process could be a quite simple shell
script or C program, and might be of use in other votes later.

Anyway, I would like to open nominations with the following:

North-America (aliased to na)