[net.mail] UUCP-CSNET question

patel@uicsg.UUCP (07/01/84)

#N:uicsg:7100002:000:877
uicsg!patel    Jun 30 21:19:00 1984

  HELP!  DESPERATE!  Need information, source code, hints, anything!

Problem:
  One UNIX computer "vaxA" is a node on the CSNET.  Our UNIX computer "vaxB"
  talks to A on a 9600 Baud line using UUCP.  We have no problem in sending
  or receiving mail on the Unix-net.  But the combination of Unix and CSNET
  addresses does not work.  For example, sending mail from vaxB to
  Mr. John Doe. on a CSNET node XYZ.
    mail vaxA!johndoe%XYZ@CSNET-RELAY
  Neither does Mr. John Doe trying to send mail to me.
    mail vaxB!patel%vaxA@CSNET-RELAY
  So the question is what piece of software and/or (heaven forbid!) changes in
  the UNIX mail program on vaxA will do the trick?

Top dollars for the right software.  Respond to the net or to me.

Janak Patel, Coordinated Science Lab, Univ. of Ill., Urbana, IL 61801
Phone: (217) 333-6201
Unix net address:  ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsg!patel

steve@dartvax.UUCP (Steve Campbell) (07/04/84)

>>Problem:
>>  One UNIX computer "vaxA" is a node on the CSNET.  Our UNIX computer "vaxB"
>>  talks to A on a 9600 Baud line using UUCP.  We have no problem in sending
>>  or receiving mail on the Unix-net.  But the combination of Unix and CSNET
>>  addresses does not work.  For example, sending mail from vaxB to
>>  Mr. John Doe. on a CSNET node XYZ.
>>    mail vaxA!johndoe%XYZ@CSNET-RELAY
>>  Neither does Mr. John Doe trying to send mail to me.
>>    mail vaxB!patel%vaxA@CSNET-RELAY
>>  So the question is what piece of software and/or (heaven forbid!) changes in
>>  the UNIX mail program on vaxA will do the trick?

The author of this request didn't mention which version of Un*x and mail
is in use, however:

We run 4.2BSD and have the same situation.  The sendmail.cf for system
"vaxB" is the one for UUCP sites that comes in the can from Berkeley.  The
sendmail.cf for the UUCP+CSNET system "vaxA" needed some work.  I changed
it by (1) removing some Berkeley-specific stuff and (2) making it resolve
UUCP addresses (alas, no pathalias yet), CSNET (~Internet) addresses, and
SOME mixed addresses.  The latter resolves the much-discussed ambiguity of

	a!b@c

by interpreting it as (a!b)@c.  Like all sendmail.cf files (:-)), there are
sure to be some bugs in it, but it does handle local mail and the type
of mixed address mentioned in the request.  I will send a copy to anyone
who asks (by mail), as long as they agree to advise me of any egregious bugs.

Steve Campbell

	UUCP: {decvax|linus|cornell|astrovax}!dartvax!steve
	CSNET: steve@dartmouth     ARPA: steve%dartmouth@csnet-relay

chris@umcp-cs.UUCP (07/06/84)

If your CSNet neighbor has a UUCP channel at all (hopefully so),
then try changing the address ``neigbor!machine!user'' to
``neighbor!user%machine.uucp'' (or if you send to them via ``@'',
change ``machine!user@neighbor'' to ``user%machine.uucp@neighbor'').

Any CSNet site that is also on the UUCP net should obtain the UUCP
channel (from BRL and/or CSNet).
-- 
In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci (301) 454-7690
UUCP:	{seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!chris
CSNet:	chris@umcp-cs		ARPA:	chris@maryland