[net.mail] user-editable mail headers

gregbo@hou2e.UUCP (Greg Skinner) (08/16/84)

Is there any interest in Unix Mailers which support user-editable headers
like tops20 MM supports them?  The new exptools version of Mail doesn't
seem to support them and I don't know of any other Unix Mailers offhand 
that do.

Note that I am not talking about editing just the to, from, cc, bcc and 
subject fields ... I am talking about putting anything in your header which
RFC822 will parse.
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bamford@ihuxl.UUCP (bamford) (08/16/84)

Y E S ! ! !  I am very interested in a well supported mailer program
that allows editing of the headers.  I very much liked what the TOPS20
machine at Stanford had.

smb@ulysses.UUCP (Steven Bellovin) (08/17/84)

Please note that the Rand MH system -- distributed with 4.2bsd -- has had
that ability for years.  When you want to send a letter, it pops you into
the editor of your choice; when you're done, it parses the header to see
who it's addressed to.

fair@dual.UUCP (Erik E. Fair) (08/19/84)

The recmail program from the netnews distribution does similar things.
Standard procedure is to make a prototype header for the user, fire
up an editor, and when it exits, hand the text to recmail. It picks out
the To: and Cc: fields and mails off the letter with /bin/mail, which
will accept *anything* as input. Voila! Editable headers.

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henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (08/19/84)

> Please note that the Rand MH system -- distributed with 4.2bsd -- has had
> that ability for years.  When you want to send a letter, it pops you into
> the editor of your choice; when you're done, it parses the header to see
> who it's addressed to.

I have no direct experience with MH, but this is *clearly* the right way
to do letter composition.  A mail system is a mail system:  it should not
try to be a text editor as well.  Partly because it complicates the mail
system unnecessarily, partly because it means the poor user has to learn
two different editors, but mostly because mail-system editors are lousy
editors!  Text editing is a complex task; writing a good text editor is
not easy.  Mail-system authors should leave this job to specialists.
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