vch@rruxo.UUCP (Kerro Panille) (12/15/85)
I met someone the other day that is at an ARPA site (vax/vms, ugh.). I'm
on SysVr2 UNIX, and I have no idea how to send mail there. He said the
system name is nb:vax or nb:blue (two machines). Both are at Rutger's
Univ. in New Brunswick. I can mail (uucp) to ihnp4, and a large variety
of other systems. I assume that I have to find a system that has both
uucp and ARPA, since my site does not have ARPA. I think that ihnp4
is on both nets.
So, my question is, how do I address the mail to get it there? I've sent
mail to a site at Rutger's called topaz by ihnp4!topaz!..., would I just
address the mail ihnp4!vax!... or ihnp4!blue!... (or if I have to,
ihnp4!topaz!blue!...)??? I've seen those strange ARPA addresses at the
end of postings, but never tried to use one.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help!
--
Vince Hatem ---------------- A
Bell Communications Research | UZI |----------|_ _ _\/ T
Raritan River Software Systems Center | |----------| /\ &
444 Hoes Lane ---------------- ROGER GUTS T
4D-360 / /\ DON'T NEED NO STINKIN'
Piscataway, NJ 08854 / / NECKTIES
(201) 699-4869 /-----/
...ihnp4!rruxo!vch
TRUE GRIT MYSTERIES - The detective series for those who NEVER eat quiche!
(WARNING - MAY BE EMOTIONALLY DISTURBING TO HAMSTER LOVERS)dmkdmk@ecsvax.UUCP (David M. Kurtiak) (12/15/85)
In article 108, vch@rruxo.UUCP writes: > I met someone the other day that is at an ARPA site (vax/vms, ugh.). I'm > on SysVr2 UNIX, and I have no idea how to send mail there. He said the > system name is nb:vax or nb:blue (two machines). Both are at Rutger's > Univ. in New Brunswick. I can mail (uucp) to ihnp4, and a large variety > of other systems. I assume that I have to find a system that has both > uucp and ARPA, since my site does not have ARPA. I think that ihnp4 > is on both nets. > > So, my question is, how do I address the mail to get it there? I've sent > mail to a site at Rutger's called topaz by ihnp4!topaz!..., would I just > address the mail ihnp4!vax!... or ihnp4!blue!... (or if I have to, > ihnp4!topaz!blue!...)??? I've seen those strange ARPA addresses at the > end of postings, but never tried to use one. > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help! > > -- > Vince Hatem ---------------- A I have sent messages successfully to Ru-net (Rutgers at New Brunswick) using uucp. The sites on ru-net include: topaz, RED, GREEN, BLUE and a few others. topaz appears to be the link between BLUE, RED, etc. The form as I have been using is: ...!topaz!usrname@SITE SITE being RED, BLUE, or whatever node the user is on. There is another way to send to Rutgers using the ARPAnet, but I don't have the information here in front of me. If needed, send E-mail and I'll reply with the needed info to send to Ru-net via ARPA. Hope this is of some help. Good luck! (Please note: the SITE on ru-net *MUST* be in caps.) Dave Kurtiak -- University of North Carolina at Greensboro. {...!decvax}!mcnc!ecsvax!dmkdmk
hedrick@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick) (12/16/85)
In the case of Rutgers, you should be able to use uucp directly. The following should work for the two sites you mention. If it does not, please send a message to topaz!postmaster. topaz!nb!username [the VMS machine] topaz!blue!username [a DEC-20] Note that mail on nb is not very good. He will have to know some magic to reply to you. Your system talks directly to topaz, so you need not involve ihnp4. topaz is the Rutgers uucp gateway. As for mail to Arpanet sites, as a system administrator I feel I should tell you that it is a violation of the rules for anyone to gateway mail from UUCP to the Arpanet, unless specific arrangements have been made so that someone responsible can validate the use. The Arpanet is a Dept. of Defense resource, and is available only for purposes of the U.S. Government. It is true that this rule is commonly violated. But it is worth trying to find out first whether a site that you want to talk to can be reached via UUCP. I think you will find that many Arpanet sites do talk UUCP, and have arrangements to forward mail to machines that are not directly on UUCP. The database used by pathalias is a good place to look for information about what machines are on UUCP at a given organization. postmaster at one of them should then be able to help you with a routing. Your local postmaster, or the postmaster at a nearby gateway should be able to help you find the routing database.