[net.music] Stupidity

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (04/12/85)

[Space is what I need -- it's what I feed on]

What kind of STUPID JERK compiles such useless, boring trivia as the
playing times of 7" singles!  Or song titles that do not appear in the
song!  Geez, you'd have to have had a lobotomy to be interested in such
dreck!  Song tiles that don't appear in the song aren't even unusual!  I
can think of dozens of songs like this off the top of my head without
even looking at my albums.  If I looked at my albums I'm sure I'd find
hundreds.  There are probably thousands and thousands of songs that fit
your description.  Here are some that I can think of off the top of my
head:
	Kate Bush ("The Dreaming"): "The Dreaming", "Night of the Swallow"
		  ("The Kick Inside"): "Saxaphone Song"
	Roy Harper ("What Ever Happened to Jugula?"): "Bad Speech",
		   "Frozen Moment",
		   "Advertisement (Another Intentional Irrelevant Suicide)",
	Peter Gabriel: "Family Snapshot", "Wallflower"
	Pink Floyd ("Animals"): "Dogs", "Sheep", "Pigs (Three Different Ones)"
		   ("The Wall"): "In the Flesh?", "In the Flesh",
			"The Happiest Days of Our Lives", "Young Lust",
			"The Trial"
		   ("Dark Side of the Moon"): "Brain Damage"

I could go on for pages and pages (but I won't)!  What planet are you
guys from?

Here's a survey I want to do. :-) Not many song titles begin with the
word "The".  Does anyone on the net know of any songs titles that
begin with this word?  Please do NOT post your responses -- send them
to ihlpg!jcjeff.  Since he seems to be interested in such drivel, I'm
sure he will compile a summary and post it.

			"Welcome to my nightmare
			 It's the one in which I walk when I'm not sleeping"

			Doug Alan
			 mit-eddie!nessus
			 Nessus@MIT-MC

jackson@curium.DEC (Seth Jackson) (04/16/85)

>What kind of STUPID JERK compiles such useless, boring trivia as the
>playing times of 7" singles!  Or song titles that do not appear in the
>song!  Geez, you'd have to have had a lobotomy to be interested in such
>dreck!  Song tiles that don't appear in the song aren't even unusual!  I
>can think of dozens of songs like this off the top of my head without
>even looking at my albums.  If I looked at my albums I'm sure I'd find
>hundreds.  There are probably thousands and thousands of songs that fit
>your description.  
>
>
>			Doug Alan
>			 mit-eddie!nessus
>			 Nessus@MIT-MC

This must be a joke, right? I mean, only a real JERK would call somebody
else a jerk because he has different interests. 

I happened to think that titles that do not appear in songs is of interest.
As a songwriter, I have been frustrated by publishers who refuse songs
because the title doesn't appear in the song. I think it would be quite 
interesting to see how many hit songs have violated this rule.

Finally, the examples you cited are NOT what was requested. The question
was what HIT songs don't have the title in the song.

--

"One man gathers what another man spills"

				Seth Jackson
				dec-curium!jackson

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (04/18/85)

>> [Me] What kind of STUPID JERK compiles such useless, boring trivia as the
>> playing times of 7" singles!  Or song titles that do not appear in the
>> song!  Geez, you'd have to have had a lobotomy to be interested in such
>> dreck!

> [Seth Jackson] This must be a joke, right? I mean, only a real JERK
> would call somebody else a jerk because he has different interests.

I will admit that I was being a jerk.  But I might as well act as a jerk
-- after all I've already been decreed publicly a "stupid" "jerk" and
"idiot" by Richard Jeffreys (the person conducting these inane, useless,
boring, trivia surveys) for being interested in two-way messages!

> Finally, the examples you cited are NOT what was requested. The
> question was what HIT songs don't have the title in the song.

Well, I'll be a jerk some more and suggest you learn how to read.
Here's the pertinent section from jcjeff's silly request:

> 2) Must have been from either a) a top fifty single (US or UK).
>		   	     or b) a best selling album (US or UK).

The meaning of "best selling" album is not necessarily clear, but all of
the songs I listed are certainly from albums that at one time were in
the Top 50 selling albums in either the US or UK.  (Perhaps the Roy
Harper album wasn't, but I suspect it was, as people tell me that Roy
Harper is quite popular these days in England.)

> [Richard Jeffreys] I like trivia of all sorts, but music trivia
> happens to be my favourite.

Well, I hope you get better!

> [Richard Jeffreys] I don't see why Doug Alan thinks that one would
> need to have a lobotomy to be interested in trivia.

Considering that there's a whole world of art and science and philosophy
to experience, it seems like an incredible waste of time.  But what do I
know?  I'm just a "stupid" "jerk" and "idiot" who finds things like
two-way messages interesting.

> [Richard Jeffreys] If this is the case, there must be an awful amount
> of people queuing up for their lobotomy, before they go to the store
> to purchase "Trivial Pursuit".

You won't get any argument from me about that.

> The original posting for the poll requested twice that the replies should be 
> sent to a path other than the path that posted the article. In a brief
> followup article, people were asked NOT to send replies to the net. 

You didn't say "pretty please", though.

> After pointing out how stupid doing a particular poll is, Doug Alan then 
> contributes to it! It makes me wonder...

My point was that since I could think of dozens of songs that off of the
top of head that satisfied the request, it couldn't be a very
interesting survey.  It's usually considered good style to support an
argument with examples, so I did.

> a) When did Doug Alan have his lobotomy ?

Never for Ever.

> b) Does he know which planet he is on ?

I'm living in my own private Idaho!

> 2. He suggests that he would like to conduct a poll himself, but he then
>    asks people not to post the replies to the net, but for the replies to be
>    sent to me, because he seems SURE that I would be interested enough to
>    compile a list of them. I am not.

Awwww!  Come on!  A list of all song titles that begin with the word
"The" would be at least as interesting as the playing times of 7"
singles over 4 mintues long!  Pretty please!  And you said you like
trivia!  Foo!  You're just a charlatan!

> 3. I seem to think that Doug Alan's actions are a prime case of stupidity,
>    and more typical of the actions of a jerk, than the actions of many people
>    who post articles genuinely looking for information and/or trivia.

Sorry, I can't help it!  All this listening to albums backwards has
warped my mind!  But at least I know what has caused my problems.  What
has caused yours?

> I'm bitten by the Rock and Roll disease;

Oh, that explains it!  Well thank goodness I haven't caught that yet!

			"I'll meet you on the dark side of the Moon"

			Doug Alan
			 mit-eddie!nessus
			 Nessus@MIT-MC