stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) (09/29/86)
Our uucp net looks like this:
__ ...
/
BMS -- BMS-AT -- vrdxhq -- seismo ...
\ /
\_ dgis _/
We have installed smail with a full path database on BMS. It works
great. I can route addresses from BMS-AT with:
mail BMS!user@foo
I would like to use smail on BMS-AT, but not use the full database.
I would like only gateway addresses in the database. I would like
BMS to route uucp names. (I know, I could let seismo do it.)
I would like to be able to enter:
smail user@foo
from BMS-AT and have the message sent to 'BMS!user@foo'. Here
is what I put in the 'paths' file.
.UUCP BMS!%s
BMS BMS!%s
BMS-AT BMS-AT!%s
UUCP BMS!%s
Ultimately, I would put all our local connections and all domain
gateways in BMS-AT, but I wanted to start with a minimum database.
It doesn't work. I get the message 'foo getpath failed' and it tries
to send the mail to 'foo!user'. If I try 'user@foo.uucp', it works.
Do I have to use 'foo.uucp' to use seismo for routing also?
MYDOM is set to '.UUCP'. I know I must be pretty dense, but please
explain.
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Stuart D. Gathman <..!seismo!{vrdxhq|dgis}!BMS-AT!stuart>mark@cbosgd.ATT.COM (Mark Horton) (10/01/86)
In article <227@BMS-AT.UUCP> stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes: >I would like to use smail on BMS-AT, but not use the full database. >I would like only gateway addresses in the database. I would like >BMS to route uucp names. (I know, I could let seismo do it.) >I would like to be able to enter: > > smail user@foo > >from BMS-AT and have the message sent to 'BMS!user@foo'. Here >is what I put in the 'paths' file. > >.UUCP BMS!%s >BMS BMS!%s >BMS-AT BMS-AT!%s >UUCP BMS!%s > >Ultimately, I would put all our local connections and all domain >gateways in BMS-AT, but I wanted to start with a minimum database. >It doesn't work. I get the message 'foo getpath failed' and it tries >to send the mail to 'foo!user'. If I try 'user@foo.uucp', it works. >Do I have to use 'foo.uucp' to use seismo for routing also? >MYDOM is set to '.UUCP'. I know I must be pretty dense, but please >explain. In the first place, don't go around expecting seismo to handle all your mail unless you ask them first; it just isn't nice. Since you have a site bms (why is all that upper case in there?) which has the full database on it, you should be using it for your smart gateway, not seismo. Second, the notation user@host means "look up host in the pathalias database, and route it there". While there is an implied .uucp for some actions, this isn't one of them. You have to type in the .uucp. Third, if this is going to work, you'll have to list all the top level domains and indicate that BMS is the gateway for all of them: BMS .com BMS .edu BMS .gov BMS .mil BMS .net BMS .org BMS .au BMS .nl /* etc */ BMS .arpa BMS .csnet /* etc */ Mark Horton
tron@nsc.UUCP (Ronald S. Karr) (10/03/86)
In article <227@BMS-AT.UUCP> stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes: >I would like to use smail on BMS-AT, but not use the full database. >I would like only gateway addresses in the database. I would like >BMS to route uucp names. (I know, I could let seismo do it.) >I would like to be able to enter: > > smail user@foo > >from BMS-AT and have the message sent to 'BMS!user@foo' ... I made a modification to smail for sites our sites which allows the specification of a forwarding host which will be sent any addresses that the local host cannot send due to lack of information. Thus, in your case, if the forwarding-relay host on BMS-AT were set to BMS then any addresses not addressable using your database would be sent to: BMS!address!user Thus you would not need to state explicitly that BMS is your gateway to all domains, while this would effectively be the case. If there is interest in these modifications, I will post the diffs to the net in net.sources. Alternately, I could mail them to anyone that wants them. -- Ronald S. Karr USENET: hplabs!nsc!tron National Semiconductor ARPA: decwrl!nsc!tron@ucbvax.ARPA Sunnyvale, CA DOMAIN: tron@nsc.NSC.COM
lyndon@ncc.UUCP (10/09/86)
In article <2652@cbosgd.ATT.COM>, mark@cbosgd.ATT.COM (Mark Horton) writes: > In article <227@BMS-AT.UUCP> stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes: > >I would like to use smail on BMS-AT, but not use the full database. > >I would like only gateway addresses in the database. I would like > >BMS to route uucp names. (I know, I could let seismo do it.) [and Mark says] > In the first place, don't go around expecting seismo to handle all > your mail unless you ask them first; it just isn't nice. To quote from u.Path.1 ... # # DOMAIN GATEWAY LIST FOR UUCP AND OTHER TOP-LEVEL DOMAINS # This file is pathalias input for UUCP domain addressing. # TOP LEVEL DOMAINS AND THEIR GATEWAYS # UUCP top level domain cbosgd .uucp ihnp4 .uucp seismo .uucp <----- ucbvax .uucp harvard .uucp mcvax .uucp decuac .uucp # ARPANET and related domains seismo .arpa, .com, .gov, .mil, .edu, .org, .net, .us <----- ----- Not that I'm trying to argue, but it would seem that a large majority of the net is implicitly using seismo as a gateway. By letting itself be included in the maps with this type of entry, it is seems that seismo is offering a service perhaps? I am the first to admit that 'ncc' is not one of the larger sites on the net, but we attempt to do our part on a local basis when it comes to forwarding mail and news. No, we cannot afford toll charges to pick up news, however we try to provide a small contribution to the net by trying to help ease the burden of distribution placed upon the backbone. USENET would be a pretty dull place if there were only 15 or so backbone sites talking to each other. We currently feed news and mail to several sites in our area, and are working on providing a mail link between Edmonton and Calgary via a dedicated line we are putting into place. We also run smail on our system, and offer the routing capabilities to our downstream mail feeds. I don't remember reading anything in the documentation for smail indicating that I required "permission" from ANY site that published a map entry to use their mail gateways. It seems I read somewhere that when I documented links in *my* map entry, it indicated *I*, as a responsible system administrator, was making those paths available for the general use of the USENET community. -- Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM) {ihnp4,ubc-vision,watmath}!alberta!ncc!lyndon Systems Group - A Div. of Nexus Computing Corp. Envoy_100: Unix