[net.lang] Public-ness of UCSD Pascal Versions

jim@felix.UUCP (03/28/84)

Long ago, in a fledging publication ("Infoworld") Adam Osborne penned
a column modestly named "From the Fountainhead."  In one of these
columns he stated his view of the legal status of various versions
of the UCSD Pascal P-system (Trademark the Regents of the University
of California).  As I recall Versions 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4 were characterized
as public domain and addresses and/or phone numbers were published
for where to get them.  I.5 and II.0 were characterized as claimed
to be non-public and hence deeded over to Softech Microsystems.

To my knowledge II.1 is legitimately Apple's and Northstar's is legitimately
theirs because their licenses were among the few irrevocable ones granted
early on in the project.  Also IV.x are legitimately Softech Microsystems,
since they were mainly developed after the turnover.  

My question is: Has the status of I.5 and II.0 been clearly determined?
Are they contestably public domain?  I heard that Mike Lehman at one
time was distributing I.5; if so this would seem to mean that it had
been determined to be public.

I would appreciate anyone having information on this subject replying
to me by mail.  I will summarize and post to the net if anything
new turns up.  In particular I would like to re-discover the contact
information for the older versions that are known to be public.

					An old UCSD Hacker:

					Jim Gilbert
					FileNet Corporation
					1575 Corporate Drive
					Costa Mesa, CA 92626

					714-966-2344

					{decvax,ucbvax}!trwrb!felix!jim

richard@sdcsvax.UUCP (03/29/84)

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The last public domain version of the UCSD System was I.3.  We started
inserting copyrights in I.4 and beyond.

I.4, I.5 and II.0 are NOT public domain, and are licensed to SofTech Micro.

II.1 had some improvements in the separate compilation scheme, and had a
screen editor with extended exchange in its later sub-releases.  Apple
and a couple of other folks got II.1 (most of the changes from II.0 and
II.1 were triggered by trying to cram the system onto the Apple II+).

II.1 was SofTech micro's starting point.

The screen editor was introduced in an internal-only version of I.3 used
in the teaching of APIS 61 (the intro to Pascal class at UCSD), but not
given to the bulk of the outside world until I.4.

Richard Kaufmann
TeleSoft
(619) 457-2700
...sdcsvax!richard

neves@uwvax.ARPA (03/30/84)

Do you know if the source to the editor is available anywhere?
I'm using Apple Pascal and the E7 at the moment but a new version
of Pascal has come out and I can't use E7 anymore.  The standard
editor lacks things like goto end of line/beginning of line and
switching to another file to edit.  If the source was available I
could insert that code myself.  -thanks, david