[net.invest] CBOE 100 Options

abeles@mhuxi.UUCP (08/03/83)

I have recently been approached by someone who got my name from
an alumni list (we are both alumni of MIT) and who is a technical
analyst.

He suggests investment in options on the CBOE 100 index, and claims
that the market is due for a decline.  Thus he suggests the purchase
of puts.  My feeling about this is that the conventional wisdom today
seems to be that the market is in for a "correction" (alias, decline).
Anything that is conventional wisdom I feel must already be accounted
for in the markets.  

Another aspect of this is the "Random Walk".  For those who haven't
read "A Random Walk Down Wall Street", by Burton Malkiel, the idea
is that it has already been shown that no investors or investment
advisors or institutional investors have been able to do any better
than a randomly selected portfolio over the long term.  That is, ther
are no "experts".

Malkiel includes technical analysts in his study and finds that 
they are likewise not experts.

Thus, I am wary of this type of investment, regardless of the risk.
Incidentally, while risk-aversion is the usually preferred investment
posture, it is not obvious to me that preference for risk (gambling)
is not entirely inappropriate in the short run.  Any comments?

cpj@uofm-cv.UUCP (08/04/83)

There are a number of reasons for the present decline and a number
of indicators that seem to work slightly.  There are  2 forms of
the Modern Portfolio Theory.  The weak form is that technical analysis
can't predict trends in the market on a short-term basis of 1-13 weeks.
These are the periods of time I think this has been tested on.  The stronger
form is called the efficient market hypothesis that states that fundamental
analysis does'nt work on a risk (beta) adjusted basis.  The reason it doesn't
work is that while earning estimates have predictive value if correct,  earnings
also are a random walk.  However some indicators such as those used by Zweig
are of some value in doing better on the market maybe.  Treasury bill and
related interest info such as free reserves seem to have some predictive value.
The current rise in interest rates which has started in June or July may indicate
further declines.  However much of the effect of this all may have been disipated in July. 

patc@shark.UUCP (Pat Conley) (08/08/83)

CBOE options are out and out gambling I think your analyst friend is just
out to churn potential accounts. As far as buying puts on any of the 
indicators i.e. SP100 or CBOE 100 and any other such thing especially with
puts the first thing to remember is the risk/reward relationship which
is ( 100% risk to lose all money / fixed gain if market collapses ).
Since the market is unlikely to collapse and you are very likely to lose
your money this is a very pad investment. Now for those super speculators
heed this message if you want to make a little money in puts you should
have bought last week... this is because options have two values of concern
intrinsic time value and speculative (greed) premium. The speculative 
premium on everything shot out of sight last week when the high interest
rates were first announced which in turn shot up the speculative premium
i.e. if you bought puts now you would be paying to much. ( Only buy puts
when there cheap!!!!!!!) The intrinsic value appears when the CBOE100
or whatever actually starts decaying, but heed this; this is where the
suckers get in. For more information on the option valuation see the Black and
Shoals model work ( one few true post academic usages of integral calculus )
this is useful for determining if your getting into options to late.
Since the current correction will soon go back as the current bullish
predictions are out for clear to december getting in to calls on some
very volatile stocks might be a good bet now that there cheap.
For calls the risk /reward is ( 100% risk /
unlimited gain ) i.e. theres no limit how high a stock can go up.
As for the broker who says to buy CBOE100 options the commisions are very
nice ( a guy could get rich in that business, perhaps much more than
any investor might) buy your friend a copy of the famous book "where are the
customers yachts",1942 an excellent book on the way brokers work.

I play options the tools I like best are options charts by Daily graphs
and on line NYSE quotation and order entry by C.d anderson/Trade master.
For people interested in options they should read Clasings book "DJ options
guide" and when you get really sharp pick up Macmillans "Options as a 
strategic investment". These are both somewhat technical books especially
the latter.