[net.invest] Long term gains = 6 mths

tbul@trsvax.UUCP (09/13/84)

Source:  Money magazine, Aug 84, pg 59.

Stocks bought after June 22, 1984 must be held only 6 months to qualify
for long term capital-gains tax rate.  Long term gains are taxed at 40% of
your federal bracket.

Thought you'd like to know.
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allegra!convex!ctvax!trsvax!tbul  Fort Worth, Texas

tbul@trsvax.UUCP (09/14/84)

By the way, the bill was supposed to have been signed into law in mid-July
but may not have been.  Does anyone know if it has been signed into law?

				tbul

newton2@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (09/18/84)

Yup, it's de Law. Six mos. holding period to qualify for treatment
as long-term capital gain. But watch out the Alternative Minimum Tax
doesn't sneak up on your carefully crafted shelter and huff and puff and
blow it out of the mixed metaphorical water...

newton2@ucbtopaz.UUCP (09/19/84)

I believe the situation with respect to property acquired before June 22, l984 is as you fear: the holding period is one year. The new 6-month holding period
applies only to property acquired after that date (if indeed 22 June is the
effective date- I don't remember).

Tax writers take this approach frequently, often making the effective date retroactive to the date an action was agreed on in committee rather than when the
law was actually passed or signed. This is to prevent an avalanche of hasty
deals to take advantage of previously more generous rules. A recent example
was the extention of the real estate depreciation schedule to 18 years from
15-- it applies to deals entered into somewhat earlier than the actual
passage of the new law.

tbul@trsvax.UUCP (09/19/84)

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Unless I am mistaken, those stocks purchased before June 22, 1984 will
have to be held for 1 year to qualify for long-term status.  Those
purchased on or after June 22 will qualify for long-term status after
6 months.

Say you bought the stock on June 21, 1984.  Instead of waiting for the
full year for long term status, why not sell it, wait a month (to prevent
'wash sale' status) and buy it again?  In this way you can cut your year
wait for long-term status by a few months.  Of course, if the stock
rises when you don't own it, you lose...

Example:  case 1

	Buy stock on June 21, 1984
	long term status on June 22, 1985

	case 2

	Buy stock on June 21, 1984
	sell stock on Oct 1, 1984
	buy same stock on Nov 2, 1984    - wait one month to prevent wash sale
	long term status on Apr 3, 1985  - saves nearly 3 months

Of course, in two months or so, this method will be worthless...

	case 3

	Buy stock on June 21, 1984
	sell stock on Dec 1, 1984
	buy same stock on Jan 2, 1985     - wait to prevent wash sale
	long term status on June 3, 1985  - saves a few days only

				Thomas Bulkowski

	allegra!convex!ctvax!trsvax!tbul  Fort Worth, Texas

halle1@houxz.UUCP (J.HALLE) (09/21/84)

Regarding waiting to prevent a wash sale:
This wait is unnecessary if you sell for a gain.  Only if you sell
at a loss is it considered a wash.  So if the stock goes up, sell
it and buy it back the next day.  (Wait the day to prevent FIFO/LIFO
type problems.)  N.B.  This advice assumes that this practice is not
specifically forbidden by the act shortening the holding time.

Considering commissions, this sell-buy transaction is not worth the
trouble unless you own a very large amount and intend to sell it
quickly; i.e. if you are a speculator and not an investor.