[net.invest] Life Ins

GOD@drutx.UUCP (GOD) (04/05/85)

> I recently bought an insurance policy with the intent of using the
> cash value each year to finance an IRA (this is what the policy is
> designed for).  A representative from a competing company then showed
> me a policy that had a premium about two-thirds of what I am now
> paying and told me I had really been taken.  Her policy was "Unit Life"
> while the one I have is "Whole Life".  Before I make another payment
> and make a bad deal worse, I need to know if I really have a bad deal.
> Can anyone suggest where I might get OBJECTIVE advice on my current
> policy?  Does anyone have experience with this type of arangement?

I was involved with Life Ins for almost a year, and from what I saw
Whole Life policies are the worst available.
   Universal Life was OK, but recent law changes took care of that.
Now, the minimum insurance corridor on these policies (this is the
minimum difference between cash value and TOTAL death benefit) has been
increased; so U-Life is not a good investment anymore.  Also, it used to
be that any withdrawal from the cash value on U-Life was tax-free until the
principal was exceeded.  Now withdrawals are taxable until only the principal
is left in the policy.
   I can assure you that the best investment is to buy the cheapest term
insurance available (from a company that's been around for awhile), and
invest the rest on your own.
   From the description of your present policy, I would suggest that you
buy term + an IRA.  I can't understand why you would put the money in a
Life policy, then take it out right away for the IRA.  Why not just put
it in the IRA to begin with?

Dave Van Handel

bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) (04/08/85)

>    I can assure you that the best investment is to buy the cheapest term
> insurance available (from a company that's been around for awhile), and
> invest the rest on your own.
>    From the description of your present policy, I would suggest that you
> buy term + an IRA.  I can't understand why you would put the money in a
> Life policy, then take it out right away for the IRA.  Why not just put
> it in the IRA to begin with?
> 
Amen to that.  By the way, if you or your spouse are employed by a college
or university (as many are on the net) the lowest premiums by far are 
offered by TIAA (Teacher's Insurance and Annuity Assn).  It enjoys the highest
ratings in Best's, and is a super deal.  Premiums run 30-50% lower than
competitors.

Not affiliated, &c., &c.

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djvh@drutx.UUCP (VanHandelDJ) (04/10/85)

> 
> The clincher was the 50% premium dividend (i.e. refund!) that the
> IEEE plan has been paying for a while.  These dividends are not
> quoted in the rate tables for any policy I've seen so you need
> to ask before making a decision.

	Be careful with dividends.  First of all, all a dividend is is
an overcharge of premium, which the company pays back to the insured at
the end of the year, if company expenses go as expected.
	Dividends are NOT like earned interest (You don't pay taxes on
a dividend; it was always your money, the company just used it for the year),
they are not guaranteed either.  If the company has a poor year, it does not 
have to refund any dividend.

Dave Van Handel

bwm@ccice2.UUCP (Brad Miller) (04/12/85)

Personally, I would never buy anything other than term life insurance. 

Whatever you decide, I would, however, suggest you make sure the company
underwriting the insurance is licenced to sell it in NY state. Not because
I am a big fan of NY state, but because their regulations are the strictest
in the nation. Since (esp. with whole life) you are depending on the company
being around in several years, knowing they have the money in relatively
safe places to back up the insurance is a good idea.

Brad Miller

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