[net.invest] Real Estate Investments??

5432dh@homxb.UUCP (David Himber) (06/07/85)

Last night I attended a "free" 2 hour seminar given by Jeff McHone 
called Creation of Wealth. It is supposed to teach you
how to buy real estate for "little or no money down".
He was somewhat vague in describing his techniques and
used speaking techniques similar to a person delivering
a sermon but also giving the hard sell. The seminar ends
with him telling you that you can learn all you need to
know by attending an all day seminar this Saturday at
the Hilton in Secaucus, N.J. for only $349. To accomodate
people who couldn't make it this weekend,a home study
kit is available for the same amount. After this weekend
the home study kit will be $399.  Are there any
"graduates" of this seminar on the net?  Has the information
proven useful? Are the techniques about to become obsolete
if Reagan's tax reform package goes through?
If I get sufficient replies, I'll post to the net.
Please send replies to hotlb!dxh instead of homxb!5432dh
as it just will be forwarded, adding additional delay.

David Himber AT&T-Bell Laboratories Holmdel, N.J.
(201)949-6323 (Call collect if you have something substantial
to tell me).
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phl@drusd.UUCP (LavettePH) (06/07/85)

Before you put up the money I would suggest you ask yourself why anybody with
such a great money-making scheme is living out of a suitcase on the rubber-
chicken circuit.  :-)

I would suggest that you thoroughly study Barnum and Fields before you try any
of these plans.  That is the rock upon which our whole system of investment
has been based for decades.  Their simple principles remain to this day the
best advice ever given to the novice investor.

- Phil

dgh@sun.uucp (David Hough) (06/08/85)

In article <626@homxb.UUCP> 5432dh@homxb.UUCP (David Himber) writes:
>Last night I attended a "free" 2 hour seminar 
>[to learn] how to buy real estate for "little or no money down".

There are lots of people charging ridiculous fees to teach you the secrets of
instant wealth in real estate.  You can get the same message in any of numerous 
books in the business section of any bookstore for a lot less money.  
Here's what seems to be the key concept: seller financing.  
Find an idiot who will take a note instead of cash.  Buy his house and give
him a note.  Fix it up as necessary and if it increases in value, sell it,
pay off the note, and have fun with your profits.  Here's the catch:  if
for any reason it doesn't work out, you walk away, leaving the seller with
his house in whatever condition you left it.  Of course, you only secure the
note with the property being bought, never with any of your other assets.

This is fine for the buyer, except there are a lot of people who have gotten
this idea from books and seminars, so there is not too much chance of finding
a desirable property at a particularly attractive price except by working
long and hard.  However, seller financing is a bummer for the seller unless
he can get the buyer to guarantee the note with all his credit and assets...
not likely.  Notes from no-money down buyers can't be resold because they
are usually worthless.

These comments are condensed from a very interesting article in a recent issue 
of Real Estate Investing Letter 
which compared seller financing notes unfavorably to corporate 
junk bonds.

David Hough
 

magik@wlcrjs.UUCP (Ben Liberman) (06/09/85)

In article <1359@drusd.UUCP> phl@drusd.UUCP (LavettePH) writes:
>Before you put up the money I would suggest you ask yourself why anybody with
>such a great money-making scheme is living out of a suitcase on the rubber-
>chicken circuit.  :-)
>
>I would suggest that you thoroughly study Barnum and Fields ....
>- Phil

For all you younger folk, that's P.T. Barnum ("There's a sucker born every  
minute") and W.C. Fields ("Never give a sucker an even break")


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