[net.micro.pc] HAYES SMARTMODEM???

twersky@aecom.UUCP (05/02/84)

 I am looking for some advice. I read numerous articles on the different

 modems. I found the hayes to be the best. Could some experienced user

 tell me the adv & dissadv between the 1200 and 1200b??? I am planning to

 invest in a modem and I want to make the right choice. I would appreciate

 any advice.
			    thanks in advance

				     yitz twersky
				(user twersky at aecom)

spoo@utcsrgv.UUCP (Suk Lee) (05/04/84)

The Hayes 1200 is a regular "in a box" modem with rs-232 port.
The Hayes 1200B is a card that fits directly into your pc--just
plug into the phone line.


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unix68@iuvax.UUCP (05/04/84)

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	I would strongly recommend against getting the 1200b for only
one reason:  if you ever decide that you wish to get another computer,
you will not be able to use the 1200b with it.  This is also true if
you want to use it on several computers/terminals.  It may cost a bit
more now, but if you ever switch computers, it will save you money in
the long run.

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					James Conley
					Indiana University
					68K Education Board Project
					...{isrnix|iuvax}!jec

todd@islenet.UUCP (Todd Ogasawara) (05/11/84)

I happen to like the external Hayes 1200 for the following reasons.
	1. I like to be able to see the LED status lights sometimes
	   This may seem silly at first but can be real handy if
	   you work with systems that do not hang the line properly
	   when you logout.  The DEC2060 I work  on does this every
	   once in a while and the LED lets me know what has happened
	   right away.
	2. Slots in the PC are scarcer that diamonds and I didn't want
	   to waste one.  I can always put a switch on my serial port
	   if I, say, want to use an RS232 based mouse and don't want
	   to spring for another port.
	3. My PC is not  the last computer I will buy.  I want the
	   flexibility to move my modem over to my new machine whenever
	   it comes along.  If you have multiple micros, you are also
	   able to use the 1200 with your other micro should the PC
	   go on the blink
	4. If the nmodem itself goes bad, I can just unplug it and put
	   my old Hayes 300 back on without even taking the PC case
	   off.

If you really want an internal modem for your PC, you might want to
consider the Qubie for $299 mailorder.  I know several people who
have bought it and they are very pleased.  It appears to be totally
compatible with the Hayes 1200b.

The only advantages of an internal modem that I can see are:
	1. They are cheaper than the Hayes 1200 external
	2. They don't take up any desk space

Still, I suggest going with an external....todd

Todd Ogasawara -- University of Hawaii -- Dept. of Psychology
          { dual,vortex,uhpgvax }!islenet!todd

gary@mit-eddie.UUCP (Gary Samad) (05/16/84)

I have quite a low opinion of the Hayes which would would be more
appropriately named the Dumbmodem.

First:  Low quality hardware.
	I had the occasion to use TWO HSs.  The transformer fell
	apart on the first one.  The "standard" telephone cable that
	came with the second one was too big to fit in the "standard"
	jack on the back of the modem.  A new cable that I bought
	fits loosely now.  Third H/W problem: the volume control is 
	extremely touchy.

Second:  Why it should be called DumbModem:
	This modem knows nothing about the telephone network except
	on hook/off hook and carrier received.  It knows nothing about
	dial tones (it happily dials away when the connector is loose
	and doesn't make a connection), ringing signals, or busy signals.
	All it can do is take the phone off hook, pause, dial, pause, maybe
	dial another number, pause and tell you that 30 seconds have gone
	by.  Meanwhile you realize that the first dial tone was never
	received!


What we need is something like the Rixon Smartmodem tries to be: really
intelligent about the status of the phone network.  It can redial and store
numbers also!  However, the modem that I have had my hands on looks like
a pre-production model with a crumby transformer (that you can plug in
backwards!!) and that doesn't work on my phone line at home but works
beautifully at work.  Too, bad.  Keep trying, Rixon.

	Gary Samad
	decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!gary

P.S. If you know of a 1200 baud autodial/answer smart modem that's cheap,
please let me know.  I will summarize to the net.