[net.micro.pc] easy word proc?

cnrdean@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (12/01/84)

Any info on a good word processor for a PC?  This is for our secretaries
who are used to a Wang.  Therefore it has to be simple, not powerful.
'wordstar' blows them away!


Thanks
Sam Scalise

rick@uwmacc.UUCP (the absurdist) (12/02/84)

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If your secretaries are used to Wang-style word processing, you
may want to look at Office Writer.  It's meant to be a copy of
the Wang Word Processing system which will run on an IBM PC.
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not my employer.
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greenber@acf4.UUCP (12/02/84)

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I recently did a major proposal for one of the major banks here in
town.  They needed some very spiffy word processor capabilities, as
well as Wang compatability, etc.

There was only one word processor that really was good (in my opinion)
enough to satisfy them:

MASS-11/PC

Wonderful little program....

You can get it through Micro-Electronic Systems in New Jersey...
Sorry, I don't have the telco number handy.....

And, of course, I have no affiliation with them.


Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----

greenber@acf4.UUCP (12/02/84)

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dwight@timeinc.UUCP (Dwight Ernest) (12/02/84)

> 
> Any info on a good word processor for a PC?  This is for our secretaries
> who are used to a Wang.  Therefore it has to be simple, not powerful.
> 'wordstar' blows them away!
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Sam Scalise

Gee! What a novel question! (:-)

Actually, this question is so common that it's been answered to death.
And there are so many different word processing programs on the market
that it's almost impossible to narrow your choices down. Choosing a word
processor from among the hundreds available for the PC is like choosing
the right automobile to fit your needs and tastes.

What you ought to do is go out and pick up a copy of the Whole Earth
Software Catalogue or a copy of one of the issues of the Whole Earth
Software Review. You can find them on GOOD newsstands. They devoted
an entire issue to a very sensical and clear evaluation of many of the
top w.p. software packages available for many different operating systems
including the PC. If you have difficulty finding a copy of the WESR's
issue on w.p., let me know and I'll send you one.

As I recall, there's one w.p. package for the PC that offers Wang-like
properties. Personally, I'm a devotee of XyWrite from XyQuest. If you'd
like more info on that one, let me know, too. But that's my own
opinion--sometimes talking about this subject is about as problematical
as talking about sex or religion with people you work with--a no-no.
(But <sigh> since you asked, I also think people ought to stay away
from the Pfs: series.)
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tony@ur-cvsvax.UUCP (Tony Movshon) (12/04/84)

> <>
> 
> I recently did a major proposal for one of the major banks here in
> town.  They needed some very spiffy word processor capabilities, as
> well as Wang compatability, etc.
> 
> There was only one word processor that really was good (in my opinion)
> enough to satisfy them:
> 
> MASS-11/PC
> 
> Wonderful little program....
> 
> You can get it through Micro-Electronic Systems in New Jersey...
> Sorry, I don't have the telco number handy.....
> 
> And, of course, I have no affiliation with them.
> 
> 
> Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----

Yes, but ...
(There's always a but)

MASS-11/PC is a pretty impressive word processing package for the IBM PC or
DEC Rainbow. It is, however, ENORMOUS (well over 1 Mbyte of code), uses a
silly menu-driven interface which arbitrarily restricts your path among its
subprograms, runs uncomfortably slowly (at least on the Rainbow screen)
unless you have applied the speedup patch to DOS 2.05, does not allow the
user to patch printer or terminal output patterns, keeps files in some
silly record format rather than ASCII.

Among the plusses, it must be said, are three text editors (including a
creditable imitation of EDT), pretty reasonable equation formatting, table
of contents, indexing, etc. Lots of bells and whistles.

Moral: if you have a hard disk and can afford the steep purchase price,
it's worth a try. But don't go overboard.

Needless to say, I have no connection with Microsystems.

Tony Movshon		{allegra|ihnp4|seismo}!cmcl2!hipl!tony
			{seismo|decvax}!rochester!ur-cvsvax!tony

werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) (12/05/84)

>> 'wordstar' blows them away!
> 
	Besides the fact that Nobody I have tried to teach Wordstar to has
ever taken more than 1/2 hour to learn it.  Most people take the wrong
approach -- there are only really 10-12 commands that need to be known to do
98% of everything. If you consider that, WS ain't so bad.
	But anyway:

	Worse than WS are Microsoft Word and Volkswriter. One is too slow
and all the commands take up space on the screen (Word) and the other with
its Alt/Shift/Control Function keys is too easy to do disastrous things
with (Volks).

	Supposedly just like the Wang is Multimate (at least that's what 
the Reviews say - never used it. Leading Edge, I beleive, makes similar
claims.
	IBM has Display/Write II (or maybe Displaywriter -sp.), which
though not like Wang's are just like Dedicated Word Processors designed
for Secretaries.
	One person I know thinks PFS:Write is easy to use and the like,
but I do not agree with her at all.  Besides that, I hate the colors it
forces on the screen (I have RGB.)

	(BTW - if there is enough interest, I'll post the subset of WS
commands worth knowing - with the rest being commentary.)
-- 
				Craig Werner
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		What do you expect?  Watermelons are out of season!

uevans@ecsvax.UUCP (12/07/84)

Craig Werner states that he's never known anyone to take longer than 1/2
hour to learn WordStar...

I agree.  The secretaries in our department picked up on the basics
quickly, and feel comfortable enough to explore more advanced commands
on their own.  WordStar may not be the best word processor available,
but it deserves more credit in the "easy to learn" department than it
gets!

Elizabeth A. Evans
Department of Psychiatry
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

johnl@ima.UUCP (12/15/84)

If your secretaries are used to Wang WP stations, they'll probably like
Multimate, which is designed to look just like the Wang and is not a bad
word processor in its own right.

John Levine, ima!johnl