starr@shell.UUCP (Bob Starr) (02/20/85)
I just got my new release of the C86 compiler. In Appendix A, there is C code written to do interrupt driven communications. The "author" claims to be one Bill Hohensee from Microcomputer Systems Lab. Well, on scanning the code, I recognized it as the code *I* wrote and posted to Usenet about a year ago. The bum didn't even change most of the variable names or comments! What really galled me was the last sentence in his opening comment: This code benefits greatly from the help of Computer Innovations staff, and Mr. Bob Kuphal. I don't know how much help those guys could have been, since the code worked as sent! The fact that this is my code is not in doubt (have you seen it yet, Tim? Care to comment?). Most of the changes made to the code were cosmetic. If credit must go to someone, I don't see why it needs to go to this Bill creep. I would appreciate it if those of you who get the C86 update will inform C86 of this pilferage! Thanks, Bob Starr @ Shell Development ------ Views expressed are my personal ones, in case that is not obvious.
ctk@ecsvax.UUCP (Tim Kelley) (02/22/85)
In article <248@shell.UUCP> starr@shell.UUCP (Bob Starr) writes: > >I just got my new release of the C86 compiler. In Appendix A, there >is C code written to do interrupt driven communications. The >"author" claims to be one Bill Hohensee from Microcomputer Systems >Lab. Well, on scanning the code, I recognized it as the code *I* wrote >and posted to Usenet about a year ago. The bum didn't even change >most of the variable names or comments! What really galled me was the >last sentence in his opening comment: > >If credit must go to someone, I don't see why it needs to go to this >Bill creep. I would appreciate it if those of you who get the C86 >update will inform C86 of this pilferage! > >Thanks, >Bob Starr @ Shell Development As a user of Starr's code ( I haven't seen the new CI compiler yet. Too lazy to send my disks ) I think this is an outrage. When one submits code to the public domain I think it's part of the deal that any one ( even commercial outfits ) can use it. Part of the fun is knowning that a lot of people benefit from the work you do. HOWEVER, selling the source and giving credit to someone else or claiming the source is your own is as low as one could possibly go. CI has recently added many utilities that Starr and I could have ( and sometimes did ) write months ago. When I look at the sources the code certainly isn't mine ( my stuff only works on the mono screen ). Starr's code is general enough to work on AT's and many clones. It's nicely done and well written. If CI knew about this ( is CI on the net? ) a public apology to Starr is in order. If CI does not know the true author of this code, they should. Their documentation should be corrected to give credit to Starr and they should stop doing business with Mr. Bill. This is one of the sleazeist things I've ever heard. Nail the muthas, Bob!! -- C.T. Kelley decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!ctk Dept. of Math. N.C. State U. Box 8205 Raleigh, N.C. 27695-8205, 919-737-3300
hohensee@uiucdcs.UUCP (02/23/85)
Mr. Shell, I am Bill Hohensee. I suppose that I am getting the credit for the RS232 code in an appendix to a C86 newsletter. Yes, the code I submitted to Computer Innovations did derive *heavily* from previous work -- this is clearly documented in the code. But as far as I knew, that work came from a Mr. Bob Kuphal working for AT&T in Napier. When I got a simple terminal program working the Tech people at CI asked me to submit it for the benefit of others who, CI suggested, had been calling for such. Ok, as long as credit went where it was deserved -- Mr. Bob Kuphal and the help offered by the people at CI. If you want credit, take it. The submission to CI was not meant to deprive you of special rewards -- it is public domain -- was your original submission copyrighted? Bill Hohensee
rdkuphal@ihlpm.UUCP (heading) (02/25/85)
I am Bob Kuphal I have noticed my name mentioned in this news group about RS232 My involvement in this was to send Bill my HP2621 terminal emulator he ask for, I assumed he was using it for personal purposes. It did contain Starrs interrupt driver, because it worked well, and happen to be posted when I was writing my emulator. The fact that Bill sent it to C86 was a total supprise to me, and I was not notified (or ask) about it. I am not in the process of stealing someone elses code, or taking credit for it!!, and I have written Starr a message explaining all. IF I had known Starr's piece of code in my emulator was going to a publisher, it surely would have been stopped by me. ---> CI86 Take note, you have used my name without my consent <-- ---> and wrongly I might add <--