friedman@topaz.ARPA (echo "Hello") (04/25/85)
Is Epsilon for the IBM-PC Public domain ?
I heared of a version (1.3 something) that is supposed
to be public domain, but I also heared a version was for
sale...
-Gadi
topaz!friedman
friedman@Ru-Topaz.Arpawhm@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA (William Maddox) (04/26/85)
Epsilon (tm) is a copyrighted product of Lugaru Software Ltd.
No version of Epsilon is or has ever been in the public domain.
For more information on Epsilon, contact Lugaru at (412) 621-5911.
Bill Maddox
{seismo, decwrl, ucbvax}!whm@cmu-cs-spice.arpalauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) (05/01/85)
Definitely not P.D. It is sold by Lugaru software. It's an excellent product, too. --Lauren--
cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) (05/03/85)
> Is Epsilon for the IBM-PC Public domain ? > I heared of a version (1.3 something) that is supposed > to be public domain, but I also heared a version was for > sale... > > -Gadi > topaz!friedman > friedman@Ru-Topaz.Arpa I am using Epsilon 2.0. It works very well, but the claim that it will run compiles in a shell is nonsense. In fact, I don't know why someone at Lugaru claimed that it would, when PC-DOS just doesn't the ability.
whm@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA (William Maddox) (05/05/85)
Clayton Cramer writes: >I am using Epsilon 2.0. It works very well, but the claim that it will >run compiles in a shell is nonsense. In fact, I don't know why someone >at Lugaru claimed that it would, when PC-DOS just doesn't the ability. This is not correct. Epsilon DOES allow compiling or shell interaction in a window, similar to many EMACS-like editors for Unix(tm). It is true that PC-DOS does not support multitasking. As a result, Epsilon itself must simulate the missing functionality, intercepting the PC-DOS interrupts and multiplexing the CPU between Epsilon and the shell, etc. This only works for "well-behaved" programs which do not similarly preempt the interrupt vector, or write directly to the screen memory, but the shell and most compilers, linkers, simple file utilities, etc. will work. [BTW: No version of Epsilon is in the public domain. Epsilon is a copyrighted product of Lugaru Software Limited.] William Maddox {seismo, decwrl, ucbvax}!whm@cmu-cs-spice.arpa
knight@nmtvax.UUCP (05/07/85)
>I am using Epsilon 2.0. It works very well, but the claim that it will >run compiles in a shell is nonsense. In fact, I don't know why someone >at Lugaru claimed that it would, when PC-DOS just doesn't the ability. Hmmm, I must be living in a dreamworld. I use Epsilon all the time, and it sure seems to me that I run compiles an awful lot in a window, look at the results, etc. Bob
cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) (05/12/85)
> Clayton Cramer writes: > > >I am using Epsilon 2.0. It works very well, but the claim that it will > >run compiles in a shell is nonsense. In fact, I don't know why someone > >at Lugaru claimed that it would, when PC-DOS just doesn't the ability. > > This is not correct. Epsilon DOES allow compiling or shell interaction in > a window, similar to many EMACS-like editors for Unix(tm). It is true that > PC-DOS does not support multitasking. As a result, Epsilon itself must > simulate the missing functionality, intercepting the PC-DOS interrupts and > multiplexing the CPU between Epsilon and the shell, etc. This only works > for "well-behaved" programs which do not similarly preempt the interrupt > vector, or write directly to the screen memory, but the shell and most > compilers, linkers, simple file utilities, etc. will work. > > [BTW: No version of Epsilon is in the public domain. Epsilon is a copyrighted > product of Lugaru Software Limited.] > > William Maddox > {seismo, decwrl, ucbvax}!whm@cmu-cs-spice.arpa When I start COMMAND.COM running from Epsilon, it does *not* run in a window. It goes off and does its thing, and when you exit from COMMAND.COM and whatever compilers you are running, you are back in a window, but it doesn't operate in anywhere near the manner that EMACS does under UNIX, which the press releases I have seen strongly suggest. This is what I mean.