[net.micro.pc] Memory boards

nather@utastro.UUCP (Ed Nather) (07/15/85)

> I'm looking for a clock/memory board, too.

We are the proud (?) owners of three IBM PC portables -- the heavy computer
with three (3) long slots, total -- and found an interesting solution to the
clock/memory problem that involved no slots at all, long *or* short.  Since
the portables use the XT motherboard, we were able to replace two rows of
64K chips with 256K chips on the motherboard, thus getting 640K.  We also
added a "dClock" card that contains the standard battery-powered clock/
calendar, but sits on the motherboard by plugging into the 8088 socket.
(It has a socket for the displaced 8088 directly above).

The memory modification involves adding one small jumper to the board, and
was described in this newgroup about a month ago.  The "dClock" is sold by
Microsync, Inc., P.O. Box 116302, Carrollton, TX 75011, for $60.  The 256K
chips cost  us $90 per portable, and they're less now.

More details on request.

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Ed Nather
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res@ptsfa.UUCP (Bob Stockwell) (07/16/85)

I have a columbia MPC (IBM-PC clone) that can take any expansion boards
built for IBM.  I am in the market for a memory board with a clock/calendar.
I don't need any serial or parallel ports as they came with my system.
I have two questions for the net.

1) I have 128K in my system, so I would like a board with capability for 512K
   instead of the usual 384K.  Do most boards contain dip-switches to configure
   memory to start at 128K or whatever?

2) Can anybody make any recommendations?

Bob Stockwell, Pacific Bell

timothym@tekigm.UUCP (Timothy D Margeson) (07/17/85)

T'was brillig, and slithy ....

Don't try to use any memory cards that have ram beyond 640K or you'll be 
sorry!

Actually up to B8000 you will be safe, maybe. Depending on your clone.

If ram exists, or is enabled beyond 640K bytes, you run the risk of having
a buss contention problem between the ram and video memory, hence a system
crash or funnies.

I have a COMPAQ Deskpro and ran into that problem, but also tried a normal
portable variety COMPAQ and did not seem to have the problem. Confused?

Stick with 640K on an IBM clone to be safe.

BTW, I have used several of the AST cards in various computers at work, and
have not yet seen one fail or cause problems.  The problems I experienced
on my machine was with a Quadram board. I now have an AST board instead.

ta ta.

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stv@qantel.UUCP (Steve Vance@ex2499) (07/19/85)

I'm looking for a clock/memory board, too.  What about this "Tall Tree
Systems J-RAM" board I've seen in the ads?  It is the same price, 
features, etc.  as everyone else, except you can expand it to 2Meg 
instead of the 640k maximum AST and everyone else has. Why would 
anyone buy anything else?  This is a serious question, since I
just bought my PC-compatible a couple of weeks ago.
-- 

Steve Vance
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dual!qantel!stv@berkeley
Qantel Corporation, Hayward, CA

dmt@mtgzz.UUCP (d.m.tutelman) (07/19/85)

> Don't try to use any memory cards that have ram beyond 640K or you'll be 
> sorry!
> 
> Actually up to B8000 you will be safe, maybe. Depending on your clone.

Actually, it depends on your display board more than your clone. 
The color graphics display memory starts at B8000,  while the
monochrome starts at B0000  (allows both display boards without bus
contention).  You lucked out at B8000 because the built-in display in the
COMPAQ emulates the color board, as does the AT&T PC6300.

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