[net.micro.pc] disk naming help wanted

jlh@loral.UUCP (A Casual Observer) (10/25/85)

I have a couple of questions about MS-DOS 2.11.  First off, is there any
way to name a disk except when you format it?  I format boxes of disks
at a time and have no way of knowing what will later be on that disk.  It
seems silly to me that I can't re-name a disk when I put programs on it,
so I must be missing the MS DOS command to do it.

Second, does anyone know of a disk cataloging program?  This will preferably
read a directory, then save the name of the disk and it's contents.  Later
I want to be able to say "where is my frobnigozz.c program that I quit working
on 6 months ago?" and have it say "your program is on the disk labeled fred".
It would also be nice if it would say "the disk labeled fred is currently
under the couch", but I can live without this feature.  Another thing I would
like it to do is tell me all the programs I have, with several sorting options
like alphabetic order, sort by time, sort by post-fix (.c, .com, etc), sort
by catagory (editor, compiler, game, etc).

Thanks for reading this, and mucho gracias if you respond.


							Jim

Jim Harkins 
Loral Instrumentation, San Diego
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johnl@ima.UUCP (10/28/85)

> I have a couple of questions about MS-DOS 2.11.  First off, is there any
> way to name a disk except when you format it?
Under DOS 2.x, no.  They finally got around to adding a disk labelling program
in DOS 3.0.  The Norton Utilities include a disk labeller, and if you are
really using boxes of floppies, you probably should get a copy to repair
scruffled disks anyway.

> Second, does anyone know of a disk cataloging program?
The IBM Personally Developed Software catalog has such a program for about
$20.  It probably works -- everything else I've tried from that catalog
does.  Call 1-800-IBM-PCSW to get the catalog.

It also occurs to me that for the cost of about 25 or 30 boxes of floppies,
you could get yourself a hard disk and avoid much of this trouble.

John Levine, ima!johnl

rde@ukc.UUCP (R.D.Eager) (10/29/85)

Something about disk labelling.

It is fairly easy to write a program to label a  disk  (they  abound  on
BBSs  and  I  have  one I can post if it is really required). No, MS-DOS
doesn't seem to include one in  the  normal  release;  probably  because
there are problems (I think due to a bug (yes, another one)) in MS-DOS.

The way you label a disk is to create a directory  entry  (in  the  root
directory)   with   the   'volume   label'   bit   set. This  is  fairly
easy. However, if you change the label later on (by either  removing  it
completely  or  by  deleting it then creating a new one) the chances are
you will trash a few files. The behaviour of  MS-DOS  in  this  area  is
*weird*. I  can  see no rhyme or reason for the mess that is made of the
disk (something like the first eight FAT entries are trashed).

What's more, it isn't even an unsupported feature; it's actually in  the
manual  so  Microsoft  haven't  got  that  cop-out  this time. Still, it
wouldn't do to produce reliable software all the time - would it?
-- 
           Bob Eager

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2212msr@whuts.UUCP (ROBIN) (11/02/85)

> 
> Something about disk labelling.
> 
> It is fairly easy to write a program to label a  disk  (they  abound  on
> BBSs  and  I  have  one I can post if it is really required). No, MS-DOS
> doesn't seem to include one in  the  normal  release;  probably  because
> there are problems (I think due to a bug (yes, another one)) in MS-DOS.
> 
> The way you label a disk is to create a directory  entry  (in  the  root
> directory)   with   the   'volume   label'   bit   set. This  is  fairly
> easy. However, if you change the label later on (by either  removing  it
> completely  or  by  deleting it then creating a new one) the chances are
> you will trash a few files. The behaviour of  MS-DOS  in  this  area  is
> *weird*. I  can  see no rhyme or reason for the mess that is made of the
> disk (something like the first eight FAT entries are trashed).
> 
> What's more, it isn't even an unsupported feature; it's actually in  the
> manual  so  Microsoft  haven't  got  that  cop-out  this time. Still, it
> wouldn't do to produce reliable software all the time - would it?
> -- 
>            Bob Eager
> 
>            rde@ukc.UUCP
>            rde@ukc
>            ...!mcvax!ukc!rde
> 
>            Phone: +44 227 66822 ext 7589

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DOS 3.0 includes disk label function, whic appears to work correctly!