[net.music] Teenage Punks, Senile Adults

ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) (04/12/85)

>***     ACT    YOUR     AGE ***
>
>Because the record manufacturers employ teenage punks to insert their 
>vinyl garbage into the sleeves, paying them with nothing more than
>nickle bags of cocaine and a free supply of hair paint.  
>
>				Bob Fishell

    I can see we have some intelligent, free thinkers out there.

    By acting one's age, I assume you mean conforming to society's
    expectations. I respect your right to fossilize, but as to
    proselityzing your conformist compulsion in this public forum,
    you can take that crap and STUFF IT!

-michael

fish@ihlpg.UUCP (Bob Fishell) (04/19/85)

> >***     ACT    YOUR     AGE ***
> >
> >Because the record manufacturers employ teenage punks to insert their 
> >vinyl garbage into the sleeves, paying them with nothing more than
> >nickle bags of cocaine and a free supply of hair paint.  
> >
> >				Bob Fishell
> 
>     I can see we have some intelligent, free thinkers out there.
> 
>     By acting one's age, I assume you mean conforming to society's
>     expectations. I respect your right to fossilize, but as to
>     proselityzing your conformist compulsion in this public forum,
>     you can take that crap and STUFF IT!
> 
> -michael

*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
***     AC  T              YOUR     AGE ***

---Get it? Huh? Do ya?

Where would you like me to stuff it?  Do you mean taxidermy or what?
And what does any of it have to do with the fact that you can't buy
perfect records any more?  C'mon fella, wash that orange and green
paint out of your hair, kick your coke habit, and quit your job at
the record company, there's a great, big, beautiful world out there
just waiting to be had.
/_\_

				Bob Fishell
				ihnp4!ihlpg!fish

ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) (04/26/85)

From Bob Fishell:

>*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
>***     AC  T              YOUR     AGE ***
>
>---Get it? Huh? Do ya?
>
>Where would you like me to stuff it? 

       PLACE THIS  IN       YOUR         ***

       Now that we're having this swell grownup chat, I'll do my best to
       cross the generation gap that has started this intellectual debate.
  
       Bob, most punks are, well, just ordinary loveable guys and gals,
       just like Donnie and Marie, except with more snot. So you gotta
       expect flames when you stereotype people with remarks like:

>> >Because the record manufacturers employ teenage punks to insert their 
>> >vinyl garbage into the sleeves, paying them with nothing more than
>> >nickle bags of cocaine and a free supply of hair paint.  
	
       or:

> C'mon fella, wash that orange and green 
>paint out of your hair, kick your coke habit...

       Besides, REAL punks don't use paint. We prefer natural substances --
       like bodily fluids -- especially fresh blood from Dead Cops, middle
       class housewives, computer nerds, and people who read
       net.wine.and.cheese (apologies to Dave Hitler).

       And cocaine's for suckers. We get high on life...

-michael

maciag@spar.UUCP (Chris Maciag) (04/26/85)

Bob,

	From your postings regarding punks, I get the idea that you do
not know any "real" punks".  If you did, you would not be so quick to
insult them.  Sure, punks may dress different than you, listen to music
you don't like etc, BUT, that does not mean they all do drugs.  I know
many (most) punks that do not do drugs.  Maybe you would like it if we
all started dressing like you.  Or better yet, why don't we all wear black
pyjamas (sp?) like Ho Chi Minh's army-  I know a word for what happens
when all of society is forced to follow the ``norms''- Facism.  Punks
are the Shyloks of the Eighties (Merchant of Venice - Shakespeare).

	Hast not a Punk eyes
	Hast not a punk feelings
                 .
                 .
                 .	
                 .
	Will a punk not bleed if you cut him.
	etc, etc, etc.

It takes all kinds of people to run the world.  I respect your opinion,
because you have the right to it.  If a person wants to shave their
head, that is there choice.  You may not agree with them, but you MUST
respect it as their choice.  You cannot force your opinion on others.  I
suggest you talk to some real punks before you go calling names etc.
Fill yourself in on the facts.  Just because punks look different does
no mean that they do not have all the rights and privalages as everyone
else.  Your biggest misconception is that all punks do drugs.  I once
knew a guy named Bob, and he did drugs, and eventually O.D.'d.  Your
name is Bob, does that mean you do drugs too?

	Chris

jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) (04/29/85)

Fer Chrissake, all a guy does is make some crack about teenage punks (and no,
he didn't say all punks do drugs, Chris, read the posting again!) and he gets
all this moralistic junk poured on him. Hey Chris, if you were Polish, would
you go into that kind of spiel every time you heard somebody tell a Polack
joke?

Lighten up, fellas, or we'll send you to net.music.punk, where you can
practice your religion unmolested by occasional facetious references to
yourselves. It's fun! Just ask the grateful dead folks, they know.

					Snarl,
					 Jeff Winslow

etan@tellab1.UUCP (Nate Stelton) (04/30/85)

I am surprised to see people sticking up for punks, since the term had always
struck me as being derogatory.  Here's what Webster's New World says:

punk (1) n. [var of spunk] any substance, as decayed wood, that smolders when
ignited, used as tinder; esp., a chemically treated fungus substance shaped
into slender, fragile, light-brown sticks:  the glowing tips are used to
light fireworks, etc.

punk (2) 1. orig., a prostitute  2. [slang] a) a catamite b) a male
homosexual c) a young hoodlum d) any person, esp. a youngster, regarded as
inexperienced, insignificant, presumptuous, etc.  -adj. [slang] poor or bad
in quality, condition, etc.

punk rock [see punk (2) n.2c] a form of simple rock music, often with coarse
lyrics, typically performed in a hostile, deliberately offensive way

                       -etan

jjm@faust.UUCP (05/01/85)

 This is all quite true.  It seems as though most people I know
 that use coke are rich yuppies or insecure adults.  The 'punks'
 I know may be a little insulted by the world but most of them are
 not into the drug counter-culture.  I have to thank the 'punks'
 (odd word choice) for removing societies judgemental eyes away 
 from the 'long-hairs' ('hippies' or whatever).  Now the punks are
 the 'druged-out juevinial (sp?) delinquints (sp?, I'm doing
 well)'.  
	I figure there will always be a way of life that society
	will shit on.  ( pardon my use of slang).
	  
	  just adding my two-cents.

	  'please don't dominate the rap, jack
	  if ya got nothin` new to say ...'

	  In  the land of the dark 
	  the ship of the sun is driven by
	  the Grateful Dead

		       The Egyption Book of the Dead



		       pasta fazool
			
			   joe
			     

jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) (05/04/85)

> 
>  This is all quite true.  It seems as though most people I know
>  that use coke are rich yuppies or insecure adults.  The 'punks'
>  I know may be a little insulted by the world but most of them are
>  not into the drug counter-culture.  I have to thank the 'punks'
>  (odd word choice) for removing societies judgemental eyes away 
>  from the 'long-hairs' ('hippies' or whatever).  Now the punks are
>  the 'druged-out juevinial (sp?) delinquints (sp?, I'm doing
>  well)'.  
> 			     

	I have to laugh ! I was sitting on the bus yesterday with a friend
who is a peace activist, among other things, and part of that generation
that in the sixties ironed their hair and perturbed their elders so 
greatly. We saw a young woman on the street with a curiously shaved hair
style and a punk outfit, and she was commenting on how strange it was.
I thought this was really funny, as I pointed out that in her youth she
was trying to achieve the same effect, basically. the effect being, sticking
a thunb in the older generation's eye, of course. Most of the punks I
know dress the way they do because they completely eschew their parent's
materialist values, and alot of them think that the world will probably end
tomorrow (in a radioactive flash) so they are pretty nihilistic too. Some
of them are violent, but almost all of them are down on drugs because that's
what the materialist, dulled-out adult world is into.
-- 
  

jcpatilla

"'Get stuffed !', the Harlequin replied ..."