[net.micro.pc] Some Laptop PC Info and request for help

mink@cfa.UUCP (Doug Mink) (03/24/86)

> I would like to put together a proposal for using a laptop computer to
> run automated tests.  The basic setup would be the PC sending commands
> and recieving data over a RS232 port and either sending results over
> another RS232 port or logging it to some mass storage.  The RS232 port
> should be capable of at least 9600 baud, and the mass storage writable
> with at least 100k bytes free.

The Zenith Z-171 is a 15-lb portable with a back-lit LCD display and two
5 1/4-inch floppies and an 80C88 running MS-DOS.  I looked at one over
the weekend and it looks pretty good.  For about $2000, discounted, you
get a parallel and a serial interface and 256K.  It can be expanded to
640K and a board can be added to support a color monitor.  Zenith also
makes a diskless true laptop which looks pretty nice.  The Sharp
PC-7000 is a bit heavier, but otherwise similar to the Z-171, but it
costs about $500 less.  I hope to look at one later this week.  If
anyone on the net has had experience with either of these computers, I
would like to hear of their experiences.  The IRS is buying 30-50,000
Z-171's, so they should be around for awhile.  The March "Mini-Micro
Systems" magazine has an article which tabulates the currently available
portables, though there is more information in the ads.  The Quadram
Datavue (also mentioned in the April Byte) looks interesting but only
has a single disk drive.

HELP:  Does anybody have schematics or a service manual for a Columbia
(rest in peace) VP luggable PC clone.  While unsuccessfully trying to
install an expansion board in mine, I munged something, possibly only the
(undocumented) sense switches on the mother board.  An EE friend with PC
experience has volunteered to look at it, but I'd like to be able to
provide him with some graphical aids.  I know the VP is not quite the
same as the desktop Columbias.

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emv@ccunix.UUCP (Edward Vielmetti) (03/27/86)

I have had a Sharp PC-7000 on loan from Ulrich's Electronics in Ann
Arbor for the MicroGroup's "Clone Day".  Here's some impressions.

Weight: more portable than luggable, but not light enough (or small
	enough) to carry around on a bicycle.  (The Z-171 could be
	carried that way.

Compatibility: ran most things, but dBase III and Fansi-console put
	garbage characters on the screen.  Fansi locked up the machine
	completely.  (It does that for a lot of machines, for that matter.)

Keyboard: nice, full-size layout (AT-style, function keys on the top.)
	Touch was a bit soft, but miles ahead of the Z-171.  Full
	numeric keypad.

Video: readable, but S*L*O*W.  PC-Outline slowed to a crawl with the 
	slow screen updating; Sidekick worked ok, but the screen was
	updated quite irregularly (looked like garbage, then fixed.)
	I noticed the same sort of video behavior with Sidekick and
	a PC emulator card on a Z-100.

Portability: needs a plug, no batter available.  This takes the machine
	out of the Z-171 class and puts it in the Compaq class, with
	the advantage of smalller size and the big disadvantages of
	slow video and lack of regular expansion slots.

Recommendations: take a look at it, then try real hard to justify 
	getting a battery-powered machine or a bigger portable.
	I really don't see the Sharp filling much of a niche in 
	the current marketplace.

Disclaimer: these are my opinions, and although I'm going to have some
	say in the report we prepare, by no means are these opinions
	held by everyone.

Edward Vielmetti, Computing Center MicroGroup, Ann Arbor MI  48109
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