[net.micro.pc] Xerox 6085 in Byte

ted@imsvax.UUCP (03/28/86)

For anyone who has heard about Xerox's 8010s and 6085s and wondered what they
looked like, there is a picture of one on page 72 of the new (April) issue of
Byte;  to my knowledge, it's the first time Xerox has ever advertised in one
of the popular journals for microcomputers.  The 6085 is a 1024*1024 OA device
with word processing, forms generation, and WYSWYG typesetting and graphics
capabilities, which can do better PC imitations than many of the so called
"compatibles".  It can run almost all MS-DOS software, and incorporate Word-
Perfect documents into its typesetting system via Navy DIF standard con-
versions.  It is not as fast as typical 68020 workstations, but the software
is better and more powerful, and it's far cheaper.  Its floppy disk drive can
read DOS formatted disks as well as disks formatted for ViewPoint, its own
Mesa based OS.

schoff@rpics.uucp (Martin Schoffstall) (04/10/86)

> 
> For anyone who has heard about Xerox's 8010s and 6085s and wondered what they
> looked like, there is a picture of one on page 72 of the new (April) issue of
> Byte;  to my knowledge, it's the first time Xerox has ever advertised in one
> of the popular journals for microcomputers.  The 6085 is a 1024*1024 OA device

on a very small, interlaced display.  Not as bad as the standard RT display
though (in size).

> with word processing, forms generation, and WYSWYG typesetting and graphics
> capabilities, which can do better PC imitations than many of the so called
> "compatibles".  It can run almost all MS-DOS software, and incorporate Word-

lots of gotchas though!

> Perfect documents into its typesetting system via Navy DIF standard con-
> versions.  It is not as fast as typical 68020 workstations, but the software

not as fast as a 68010 workstation either

> is better and more powerful, and it's far cheaper.  Its floppy disk drive can

better, powerful, cheaper????  How about a "distributed file system" that
first copies from the "file server" all your files to the absolutely
necessary local disk.  How about a proprietary bus that you could have
a lot of fun trying to figure out.  How about protocols (xns) that historically
have not been
placed in the public domain so people could implement them.  Would you
like your favorite machine with large disks to file serve for them, good luck.
How about a pricing strategy on the file servers that makes them look like
IBM products (overpriced).  Want to develop some software?  Whoops you have
to have XDE and use MESA.

> read DOS formatted disks as well as disks formatted for ViewPoint, its own
> Mesa based OS.

We have had two of these machines at RPI for a long time and so far
I have been unimpressed.
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