[net.micro.pc] MS Mouse, V-20 w/8087, Edge Questions

cjl@ecsvax.UUCP (Charles Lord) (04/11/86)

I have a few questions that haven't come up in discussion, so I'll
be bold and ask them:

What differences exist in the operation of the Microsoft mouses (mice?)
between the bus version and the serial version? Is the serial version
slower? the same? I am looking to purchase the serial version for port-
ability between machines, but don't wish to sacrifice utility.

Has anyone with a V-20 processor used an 8087 with it? Do they work  
together without contention? What kind of speed advantage did you 
find?  I have become addicted to an 8 Mhz 8088/8087 but like the
idea of CP/M native code with the new patch programs.  How well do
THEY work?

Just what ARE the differences between the Everex Edge and Graphics
Edge cards other than single/multiple display capability?  I would
appreciate hearing from users of these two cards about their experiences
good/bad.

By the way, has anyone gotten Apple Turnover to work with any of the
Taiwan-made (cheapie) disk controller boards? If so, Which one(s).
Compaq owners beware - A.T. does NOT work with the Compaq.

'nuff said.  Thanks in advance for the useful information.

                                 Charles Lord
                     Triangle Research & Development Corp.
                            Research Triangle Park, NC
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kim@mips.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) (04/15/86)

[ ... go ahead, eat my bits ... ]

> Has anyone with a V-20 processor used an 8087 with it? Do they work  
> together without contention? What kind of speed advantage did you 
> find?  I have become addicted to an 8 Mhz 8088/8087 but like the
> idea of CP/M native code with the new patch programs.  How well do
> THEY work?

I replaced the 8086 in my 8-MHz Fujitsu Micro-16s about 8 or 9 months
ago with a V-30.  The FJ box has an 8087, and runs MS-DOS (2.11).
I have had *NO* problems whatsoever, nor any S/W that behaves differently
(thankfully, none of my S/W relies on instruction cycle/timing loops).

Overall, I see a performance improvement of about 15%, though programs
that do alot of string manipulation are a bit better than this (say 20%).

The V-30 has had no problem communicating with the 8087, though you
will see very little of a performance improvement (if any) in any
application that is 8087 intensive.  Rumor has it that NEC is about
ready to introduce an 8087-equivalent part that runs faster/cooler/etc.,
and has additional built-in functions, and other enhancements.

I dunno how well the 8080 mode works out, as the FJ machine has a Z80
subbordinate processor that runs what little 8-bit code I have.  There
was an excellent 2-part article on this subject in Micro/Systems Journal
earlier this year.  (Too bad the NEC 8080-mode isn't really a Z80 mode.)

In terms of price/performance, the V-30 gives alot of bang for the buck;
cost was about $21.

/kim

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