dennis@ucrmath.UUCP (Dennis Michael) (03/31/86)
We have several machines running 4.2bsd and ULTRIX on a local ethernet, and we want to hook up an IBM AT which is running Xenix. Can someone give me some pointers on how to do this? Does Xenix support TCP/IP, and if not, where can I get the software? Is there a vendor that sells an ethernet board for the AT? Dennis Michael Department of Mathematics and Computer Science University of California Riverside, CA 92503 ucbvax!ucdavis!ucrmath!dennis
farmer@ico (04/02/86)
>Can someone give me some pointers on how to do this? Does Xenix support >TCP/IP, and if not, where can I get the software? Is there a vendor >that sells an ethernet board for the AT? A friend at work told me the following: Tell him there are several vendors with ethernet boards for the AT (3COM, Interlan, CMC and Excelan are those I remember without looking them up). There are also TCP/IP implementations available for XENIX. The Excelan board has a XENIX driver and runs TCP/IP on the board. NRC has XENIX drivers as well. The CMC board is another intelligent board with TCP/IP on-board. I don't remember if XENIX is supported or not but I would assume so. Also, the Wollongong Group may have a XENIX implementation.
romkey@mit-vax.UUCP (John Romkey) (04/09/86)
In article <154@ucrmath.UUCP> dennis@ucrmath.UUCP (Dennis Michael) writes: >Is there a vendor that sells an ethernet board for the AT? There are a number of vendors who sell ethernet interfaces for the PC family. 3COM: the 3C500/3C501 (500 = 501 + software) "dumb" cards, and the 3C505 interface. The 3C505 is a smart card which can also use the 16 bit AT bus, although it works on a normal PC bus too. Interlan: the NI5010 card, pretty much equivalent to the 3COM 3C500/3C501 cards. Ungermann-Bass: they also sell a dumb card and a smart card. I don't know much about these. Excelan: only a smart card, with TCP/IP for it. I believe that most of the other smart cards come with no software by default. Unfortunately, I don't have the addresses and phone numbers for these vendors handy right now. John Romkey FTP Software, Inc. (617) 868-4878 PO Box 150 UUCP: romkey@mit-vax.UUCP Kendall Square Branch ARPA: romkey@borax.lcs.mit.edu Boston, MA, 02142
cck@cucca.UUCP (Charlie C. Kim) (04/11/86)
In article <128@mit-vax.UUCP> romkey@mit-vax.UUCP (John Romkey) writes: >In article <154@ucrmath.UUCP> dennis@ucrmath.UUCP (Dennis Michael) writes: >>Is there a vendor that sells an ethernet board for the AT? > >There are a number of vendors who sell ethernet interfaces for the PC >family. > >3COM: the 3C500/3C501 (500 = 501 + software) "dumb" cards, and the 3C505 >interface. The 3C505 is a smart card which can also use the 16 bit AT >bus, although it works on a normal PC bus too. > I believe the dumb board is priced around $600. I'm not too sure. I don't have their number. MIT PC/IP and FTP software runs with this card. >Interlan: the NI5010 card, pretty much equivalent to the 3COM >3C500/3C501 cards. This is the Micom-Interlan group. The dumb card is priced around $550 (recently dropped from about $600) or so and the smart card is priced around 1,200+-200 (all of them are). Documentation for the dumb board is available (they gave it to me free); don't know about the smart board. Number: (617)-692-3900. MIT PC/IP and FTP software runs with this card. > >Ungermann-Bass: they also sell a dumb card and a smart card. I don't >know much about these. > Ungermann-Bass' dumb card is the NIC. The smart card is called the NIU. Prices are around $595 and about $1,200+-200 respectively. My feeling is that the NIC is best price/performance buy for dumb boards on the market. (Full duplex operation, 96 128byte receive buffers for a total of 12KB, 2 2KB transmit buffers). Unfortunately, I wouldn't count on it working on an AT with boosted to run at 9MHz. The NIC is the card used by ACIS 4.2BSD on the IBM PC/RT (on the AT bus). Documentation: user level stuff, (e.g. how to set up the board); hardware/functional level forget it. Phone: 1-408-496-0111. >Excelan: only a smart card, with TCP/IP for it. I believe that most of >the other smart cards come with no software by default. > Excelan's card is around $1000 dollars again. The software is an on-board TCP/IP similar to that running on their other cards (q-bus, multibus, unibus, etc). and is available as an add-on for around $600. Documentation for the board is $20. Contact: 1-408-945-9526 Other vendors included: Tecmar (216 349 1009) and Destek (408 737 7211). Tecmar's price was a little high $950, but I don't know if it's a smart board or not. I don't know anything about Destek other than a price of about $500-750 - I'm still waiting for information from them. Others (which may not even be ethernet board in reality) include Autocontrol's ACsoft/Netboard $525, Brogen(sp?)'s Elan/PC $995, Datapoint's IN X-PC $770. (Most of this information comes from a Data Sources catalog and may be out of date). Beside the vendors listed above, FTP software, NRC's Fusion package, and Woolagong offer TCP/IP service on a PC. FTP software's is based upon the MIT PCIP software base. I believe that both Woolagong and NRC's Fusion package is a on-board TCP/IP using the smart Interlan or 3com card. Getting source from NRC or Woolagong is next to impossible (pricing is so high that you might has well forget it). Getting source from FTP software shouldn't be that bad (I hope -- I've heard good things in this corner). 3com and ub both sell software; 3com's is some proprietary system and ub's is a implementation of ms-net. In any event, you can get up and running for about $600-700 with a dumb board ($1000-1100 if you need supported software) and $1,000-1,800 using a smart board. (Software for the smart boards runs about $500-600). Charlie C. Kim User Services Academic Informations Systems Division Columbia University
patch@nsc-pdc.UUCP (Pat Chewning) (04/16/86)
The MIT PC/IP stuff will not work if you have the Professional Graphics Controller in your IBM PC AT. Evidently, they assume a "regular" graphics controller.