[net.music] CD defects

John@sri-csl.ARPA (05/01/85)

Some months ago, I gave in to the urge to buy a compact disc player.
At the present time, my CD collection is about 40 discs.  I have noticed
what appears to be a trend regarding disc quality defects and am
curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.

To be specific, discs produced by Polygram (this includes the DG, Philips,
London, Polydor, RSO and Mercury labels) in W. Germany seem to be prone
to "skipping" and "getting stuck".  (One disc I have endlessly repeats
an entire track.)  My current return rate (of Polygram discs) is running
at about 40 percent.  I've not had any problem with any of the 
discs produced by other manufacturers (Sanyo and CBS/Sony of Japan)
I've returned the defective discs to the retailer for exchange
and the replacements have always played acceptably.

I'm curious if anyone else has experienced similar problems with discs
made by Polygram.  Or is my player (a Sony D-5 Discman) "excessively"
sensitive to minor defects?

jsweet@uci-icsa.ARPA (Jerry Sweet) (05/01/85)

I have the same disc player, but so far no problems with any brand of
disc. On the other hand, a friend of mine bought one too, and the thing
would refuse to seek to a particular track.  Then one day, it decided
to start working normally.  The D5s do seem unusually subsceptible to
any sort of vibration (that pretty much rules out taking them along in
any American-built vehicle :-) ).  

This doesn't address your basic suspected problem with particular
brands of discs, but  does indicate that perhaps you shouldn't rule
out fundamental or transitory defects in the Sony D5 player.

-jns

hsu@cvl.UUCP (Dave Hsu) (05/02/85)

> 
> To be specific, discs produced by Polygram (this includes the DG, Philips,
> London, Polydor, RSO and Mercury labels) in W. Germany seem to be prone
> to "skipping" and "getting stuck".  (One disc I have endlessly repeats
> an entire track.)  My current return rate (of Polygram discs) is running
> at about 40 percent.  I've not had any problem with any of the 
> discs produced by other manufacturers (Sanyo and CBS/Sony of Japan)
... 
> I'm curious if anyone else has experienced similar problems with discs
> made by Polygram.  Or is my player (a Sony D-5 Discman) "excessively"
> sensitive to minor defects?

No, you're not alone.  So far, I've experienced two dead London recordings...
and it didn't matter what player I used. They were equally dead on my D5, my
dad's Sanyo, and a friend's unit.  And yes...all the Japanese discs have been
flawless so far.

Question:  Aside from the obvious "Japanese discs have a clear, raised hub
and come packaged in 8-prong jewel-boxes while German discs are uniformly
aluminized, flat, and come in 6-prong jewel-boxes (with that 'stamped hole'
look)", I have a disc stamped CSR (is this CBS-Sony? it looks like them) with
a (poorly-designed) three prong jewel-box.  What other designs are in use
now?

-dave

malis@BBNCCS.ARPA (Andrew Malis) (05/06/85)

I had a similar "skipping" and "repeating" problem which turned
out to be in my CD player, the Yamaha CD-2.  I took it in to the
shop and they realligned the optical tracking mechanics.  Since
then, I haven't had any problems at all, on any discs.  You may
want to try this with your Discman.

Andy

MRC@SIMTEL20.ARPA (Mark Crispin) (05/06/85)

My experience is similar to John's.  I have a Sony D-5 and a Sanyo
something-or-other.  I found that the amount of skipping on the D-5
is directly proportional to: (1) how strong the batteries are, (2)
how horizontal the CD player is.  A D-5 held in its carrying case
with batteries which are about halfway towards dead performs less
well than when it is placed on a table with the AC adapter.

Most of my discs are Polygram-made, so I can't say for sure how they
compare with others.

I use my D-5 all the time, and go through batteries about 1 set a week
even though I only use the batteries when walking to lunch.
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