korn@datagen.UUCP (07/21/86)
>I'm looking for a good editor for programming under MS-DOS and have yet >to find one. Ideally, I'd like to run vi or emacs, but I haven't the time >to port those editors over. We do have a UNIX source license, so if anyone >out there HAS a vi for MS-DOS, we would be very interested. Otherwise, >here are some of our criterea for the ideal editor: PC/VI is a full implementation of UNIX VI version 3.9 (which is what comes with System V release 2). It is $149 for the first copy and $75 for each copy after that. It is available from: Custom Software System PO Box 678 Natick MA 01760 617-653-2555 John Korn Data General {allegra, ihnp4, decvax}!datagen!korn
brimoe@hope.UUCP (Brian Bender) (07/23/86)
> > >I'm looking for a good editor for programming under MS-DOS and have yet > >to find one. Ideally, I'd like to run vi or emacs, but I haven't the time > >to port those editors over. We do have a UNIX source license, so if anyone > >out there HAS a vi for MS-DOS, we would be very interested. Otherwise, > >here are some of our criterea for the ideal editor: > > PC/VI is a full implementation of UNIX VI version 3.9 (which is what > comes with System V release 2). It is $149 for the first copy and $75 for > each copy after that. It is available from: > > Custom Software System > PO Box 678 > Natick MA 01760 > 617-653-2555 > MANX Aztec C compiler system has a editor called 'Z' which is VERY close to VI they say "if you know vi you know Z." Also the development system from Aztec is very nice for software development. "I don't want to kill you, and you don't want to be dead!" brian(moe)@ucr
spf@bonnie.UUCP (Steve Frysinger) (07/24/86)
> > >out there HAS a vi for MS-DOS, we would be very interested. Otherwise, > > >here are some of our criterea for the ideal editor: > > > > PC/VI is a full implementation of UNIX VI version 3.9 (which is what > > comes with System V release 2). > > MANX Aztec C compiler system has a editor called 'Z' which is VERY close > to VI they say "if you know vi you know Z." > Also the development system from Aztec is very nice for software development. I've used both the Manx "Z" vi and PC/VI, and I've got a lot of hours (lines?) logged on UNIX vi. In my opinion, PC/VI is THE way to go. It's the real thing. Conversely, Manx "Z" vi fell short in MANY areas (like no global substitutes, for gosh sakes!). The MANX editor is simply NOT vi, and not funtionally sufficient as a text editor even if you don't care about vi compatibility. Steve Frysinger *** Why would I waste my time expressing someone else's opinion?
ignatz@aicchi.UUCP (Ihnat) (08/08/86)
> I've used both the Manx "Z" vi and PC/VI, and I've got a lot of > hours (lines?) logged on UNIX vi. In my opinion, PC/VI is THE > way to go. It's the real thing. Conversely, Manx "Z" vi fell > short in MANY areas (like no global substitutes, for gosh sakes!). > The MANX editor is simply NOT vi, and not funtionally sufficient > as a text editor even if you don't care about vi compatibility. > Steve Frysinger Steve, be careful--specify what release of 'z' you used! The shortcoming you mentioned (no global substitutes) went away *long* ago! The current release of 'z', distributed with the Aztec 3.40A compiler release, is version 1.4, dated 11/20/85. 'Z' is, by and large, today exactly what they say it is--basic VI. You're missing the things you might expect--named buffers, the Lisp and NROFF oriented positioning, etc. Possibly the most painful shortcoming is the fact that it must be able to fit the file being edited in its (approx. 50K) memory buffer. (As a practical matter for source editing, this is only rarely a problem.) But as to the command set for normal programming, and the current bugs (especially as of 1.4), it's VERY vi-like. HOWEVER--PC/VI appears to be the clear winner as a true VI-like editor. Of course, you've got to pay for it, while you get 'z' with the Commercial Development package from Azted. Just a closer--when you issue an opinion, positive OR negative, concerning any commercial product to the net, please indicate the last time you actually used it, and what release/version it was at the time. In this particular case, I knew that Steve must have used an old version of 'z'; but somebody who didn't would have had obsolete information on which to make a decision. -- Dave Ihnat Analysts International Corporation (312) 882-4673 ihnp4!aicchi!ignatz || ihnp4!homebru!ignatz