[net.micro.pc] problems with PCLISP and other netware

wylie@cui.UUCP (WYLIE Andrew) (08/18/86)

(dinner time)


I too have had problems with the PCLISP version recently posted, however
the problem does not seem limited to PCLISP itself. I stripped and
catenated the files exactly as described, then I used two different
methods to get the ARC file onto my PC-AT :
  1/  uudecode on our VAX running 4.2 BSD then TFTP to the AT
  2/  TFTP to the AT and then uudecode using the Turbo Pascal program
      which was posted to the net a few months ago

Both methods produce a .ARC file of the correct length as specified
in the posting, but a COMP reveals that two half-bytes are zero in the
file which was decoded on the PC which are non-zero in the file
decoded on the VAX.

First conclusion - ONE OF THE UUDECODES (probably the PC version) 
                   DOES NOT WORK

I then ran both ARC5.10 and ARC5.12 on BOTH of the uudecode output
files. In all four cases :
  1/  the v (verbose listing) is correct
  2/  either t (test) or x (extract) CRASHES whilst in PCLISP.EXE,
      either causing garbage on-screen and premature return to DOS
      or else hanging the PC and requiring a power-off reboot.

Second conclusion - ARC is not a robust program, because it crashes
                    spectaculary instead of giving an error message.

Third conclusion - the PCLISP file is corrupted.

At the end of the exercise I have lost all faith in uudecode and ARC,
and of course do not have a working PCLISP. Since the problem occurs
in PCLISP.EXE, it can be isolated to either parts 3, 4 or 5 of the
posting, but this does not help much !
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earls@pyramid.UUCP (Earl Stutes) (08/22/86)

I also had problems at first with getting PCLISP to my pc-at. But when
I  very carefully put all of  the files together on  the UNIX system(I
used gnu emacs and just moved buffers around), I  got a good .arc file
that I  eventually used  the xmodem protocol to  transfer to th pc.  I
now have a very nice working copy of pclisp running on my HP vectra.

The point  being when the  files got   here they were   OKAY.  My main
motivation for uudecoding on the  UNIX machine was  to cut down on the
download time.  It may be that you  folks are not  getting  your modem
drivers set into 8 bit mode.  I have  always assumed that the programs
that I am using were taking care of me, and it  appears that they are.
I use a program called xm that I got of the net about 6 months ago. It
only does checksum checking. On the pc end  I use procomm  2.3.  It is
capable of using either checksum or CRC and will adopt to what it sees
coming at it.

Good luck

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