[net.micro.pc] alternate sources for Simul-Task

jeff@cdp.UUCP (08/23/86)

Does anyone know if Simul-Task/OS-Merge is available
from anyone besides AT&T (and will run on machines
other than the 6300 Plus)?  I would really like to be
able to run both MS-DOS and Unix, but I would like to
have a choice of vendors.  Also, is it true that the
software requires some special hardware assist that is
not part of a "standard" AT-class machine?

Thanks...

dan@rsch.wisc.edu (Daniel M. Frank) (08/24/86)

In article <8800012@cdp> jeff@cdp.UUCP writes:
>
>Does anyone know if Simul-Task/OS-Merge is available
>from anyone besides AT&T (and will run on machines
>other than the 6300 Plus)?  I would really like to be
>able to run both MS-DOS and Unix, but I would like to
>have a choice of vendors.  Also, is it true that the
>software requires some special hardware assist that is
>not part of a "standard" AT-class machine?
>

   My understanding is that Microport, vendors of System V/AT, have contracted
with the developers of OS-Merge to provide their product for the AT and
compatibles.  Presumably this means that it can be done without hardware
assist.  Availability is, I think, around 1Q87, but you'd best check with
Microport about this.  Their number is 1-800-722-8649.


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      Dan Frank

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btb@mtuxo.UUCP (Bruce Burger) (08/26/86)

> Does anyone know if Simul-Task/OS-Merge is available
> from anyone besides AT&T (and will run on machines
> other than the 6300 Plus)?  I would really like to be
> able to run both MS-DOS and Unix, but I would like to
> have a choice of vendors.  Also, is it true that the
> software requires some special hardware assist that is
> not part of a "standard" AT-class machine?

Simul-Task does indeed take advantage of several pieces of hardware
built into the PC 6300 PLUS specifically for that purpose.  This
provides protection from "ill-behaved" programs like Flight
Simulator (and others that are more practical!) that try to take
over the machine.  My only general comment regarding this and other
products that combine DOS and UNIX is that there are many, many
ways in which DOS programs try to bypass DOS; make sure the OS
environment you're considering can run the DOS programs that you
want.  Simul-Task, although not perfect, does some neat tricks to
handle such programs.

Incidentally, "Simul-Task," at least by that name, is available
only from AT&T.

--Bruce Burger     AT&T Information Systems     Freehold, NJ
  {...ihnp4!}mtuxo!btb

cwd@cuae2.UUCP (Chris Donahue) (08/26/86)

I am pretty sure that shortly after the announcement of Simul-Task
Locus Computing (the folks that wrote the software) stated a
future direction to produce a pure software version of Simul-Task
called something-Merge. No stated availability dates or implementation
specifics other than "software only". Without some of the 6300 PLUS
hardware, DOS task switching could be pretty slow. Also, they would
need to pick a version of UNIX for PCs and contract for source or
modifications to support/integrate their product. Doesn't sound
trivial as you dig into the job. To get the final word,
go to Locus.

Chris Donahue
AT&T Info. Sys.
Application Engineering