[net.micro.pc] UNIX-like Shells for MS-DOS

p40001@mcomp.UUCP (10/18/86)

My response to the "UNIX-like PC-Shell" note by ihlpf!alt was sent out
incomplete, so here it is again, with all the info:

> I have read of two UNIX-like shells for the PC.  They are:
>   1. Dr. Dobb's Journal of Software Tools
>      501 Galveston Dr. - Redwood City, CA 94063 
>      Shell=$29.95; /util=$29.95; Both=$50.
>   2. Kent William - 722 Rundell St. - Iowa City, IA 52240
>      Donation=$25. - will send compiled version & "C" source
> I don't know anything about either of these two, other than what I read in
> an ad. Anyone have any experience? 

I have not used the Holub-Shell ( #1 above); Kent William's PC-shell (#2) is
quite nice but introduces a number of deviations from C-Shell syntax which
I find annoying. Also, both PC-Shell, as well as the shell listed as #3 below
have slight troubles with programs which have the '/' hard-wired into them
as the switch character (i.e. DOS LINK, and a few other programs.). Also,
PC-Shell will not run well apart from COMMAND.COM - it has to be started 
on top of COMMAND.COM, not instead of it.

I would like to list two other shells currently available and mention
one about to be released:

   3. Micro C-Shell, by David Beckemeyer. He advertises in Dr. Dobb's,
      and his shell runs well as a replacement for COMMAND.COM. It is fairly
      close to the UNIX C-Shell, and sells for ca. $40.

   4. Percent Shell, from Thompson Automation. This seems (from literature
      I have received) one of the most complete and thought-through
      products of this type, with solutions even for the switch character
      problem mentioned above. It sells for $95, from Thompson 
      Automation, P.O.Box 5163, Beaverton, OR 97006; 503-645-9434.

   5. MKS Korn Shell -- due for beta testing in November. This is part of
      version 2.1 of the MKS Toolkit. The entire toolkit, which includes
      such goodies as sed, awk, vi/ex, etc., sells for $139 from 
      MKS, 43 Bridgeport Rd. East, Waterloo, Ont. N2J 2J4, Canada; phone
      519-884-2251; uucp ihnp4!watmath!mks!toolkit.
      One of the nice things about the MKS toolkit is that they attempt
      to provide extremely complete implementations, based on SVR2; I
      expect their KORN shell to fit that pattern, supporting every
      feature that can possibly be implemented under MS-DOS.

Note that my only connection with both David Beckemeyer and MKS is as a 
very satisfied customer, and I have no connection with Thompson Automation.

Note also that both MKS and Thompson have extremely generous discounts for
folks who buy more than one copy of the product; MKS lets you make additional
copies of both software and documentation for $60 each, and Thompson will
sell 2-4 copies for 66.50 each, 5-9 copies for $57 each, etc.
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