anderson@uwmacc.UUCP (Jess Anderson) (10/27/86)
Did anybody else pick up SPL from Dennis Baer (...!helm!dlbaer)? I did, and I'm having a problem I don't understand. I hope someone can help me with it. Baer distributed his program (binary) in five parts, posted to this newsgroup. I was interested, so I saved the parts, stripped the extra lines off the heads and tails of the parts, cat-ed them into one large file, fed that file to uudecode to obtain spllib.arc, transferred the .arc file (kermit on the Unix Vax-11/780 (BSD 4.3), ProComm 2.4.2 Kermit on my PC-clone Z-158), and (on the PC) ran ARC51 on it. First try, I get one program partially un-arced (BLACKJAC.SP), then the error message ABORT: stack overflow. Hm, I think, try ARC's t option, which then yields: Archive truncated in file BLACKJAC.SP, One error detected. Damn! Supposing I may have gotten an error during the Kermit step, I transfer the file again to a new disk [ugh, 31 minutes @ 2400 baud!]. Same result. I was pretty careful about handling the 5-part postings and assembling then into one file to feed to uudecode. Nevertheless, something could have happened at that step. However, if someone else got the same result I did, maybe the fault is in what was posted. If someone knows what I should do next (or even has suggestions), I'd appreciate some e-mail on that. ADVthanksANCE... -- ==ARPA:====================anderson@unix.macc.wisc.edu===Jess Anderson====== | (Please use ARPA if you can.) MACC | | UUCP: {harvard,seismo,topaz, 1210 W. Dayton | | akgua,allegra,ihnp4,usbvax}!uwvax!uwmacc!anderson Madison, WI 53706 | | BITNET: anderson@wiscmacc 608/263-6988 | ==Words are not just blown air. They have a meaning.=====(Chuang Tsu)=======
jimb@tekigm2.UUCP (10/28/86)
In article <419@uwmacc.UUCP> anderson@uwmacc.UUCP (Jess Anderson) writes: >Did anybody else pick up SPL from Dennis Baer (...!helm!dlbaer)? >I did, and I'm having a problem I don't understand. I hope someone >can help me with it. Baer distributed his program (binary) in >five parts, posted to this newsgroup. I was interested, so I saved >the parts, stripped the extra lines off the heads and tails of the >parts, cat-ed them into one large file, fed that file to uudecode >to obtain spllib.arc, transferred the .arc file >First try, I get one >program partially un-arced (BLACKJAC.SP), then the error message >ABORT: stack overflow. > I was pretty careful about handling the 5-part postings and >assembling then into one file to feed to uudecode. You have to be careful when stripping the heads and tails. I noticed that there were three blank lines at the end of each file. I removed them and did not cat the files. I instead use and editor which allows me to make sure that there are no blank lines when I reassemble the file. I put all five parts together that way. I ran through uudecode and used kermit in the binary mode to put files on the pc. I unarced them using arc.512 and had no problems. I would recheck the initial building of the main file.
dmkdmk@ecsvax.UUCP (David M. Kurtiak) (10/30/86)
> Did anybody else pick up SPL from Dennis Baer (...!helm!dlbaer)? > I did, and I'm having a problem I don't understand. I hope someone > can help me with it. Baer distributed his program (binary) in > five parts, posted to this newsgroup. I was interested, so I saved > the parts, stripped the extra lines off the heads and tails of the > parts, cat-ed them into one large file, fed that file to uudecode > to obtain spllib.arc, transferred the .arc file (kermit on the > Unix Vax-11/780 (BSD 4.3), ProComm 2.4.2 Kermit on my PC-clone > Z-158), and (on the PC) ran ARC51 on it. First try, I get one > program partially un-arced (BLACKJAC.SP), then the error message > ABORT: stack overflow. Hm, I think, try ARC's t option, which then > yields: Archive truncated in file BLACKJAC.SP, One error detected. > Damn! Supposing I may have gotten an error during the Kermit > step, I transfer the file again to a new disk [ugh, 31 minutes > @ 2400 baud!]. Same result. > I was pretty careful about handling the 5-part postings and > assembling then into one file to feed to uudecode. > Nevertheless, something could have happened at that step. > However, if someone else got the same result I did, maybe the > fault is in what was posted. SPLs entire five parts made it here without any problems whatsoever. I just finished deARCing the file(s) and they have all tested out okay. So, there is probably no need to re-post it to the entire net. If anyone else had any problems like the above mentioned, I can e-mail if neccessary. -- David M. Kurtiak UNC - Greensboro BITNET: dmkdmk@ecsvax Usenet: ...{decvax}!mcnc!ecsvax!dmkdmk ...ulysses!ecsvax!dmkdmk
jkg@gitpyr.gatech.EDU (Jim Greenlee) (10/30/86)
In article <1154@tekigm2.UUCP> jimb@tekigm2.UUCP writes: >In article <419@uwmacc.UUCP> anderson@uwmacc.UUCP (Jess Anderson) writes: >>Did anybody else pick up SPL from Dennis Baer (...!helm!dlbaer)? >>[...] I was pretty careful about handling the 5-part postings and >>assembling then into one file to feed to uudecode. > >You have to be careful when stripping the heads and tails. I noticed that >there were three blank lines at the end of each file. I removed them and >[...] had no problems. I would recheck the initial building of the main file. I also downloaded SPL and observed the above-mentioned blank lines. However, I downloaded the UUencoded program and decoded it on my PC before unARCing it. I used a word processor to strip all the lines (blanks included) and the DOS COPY command to "cat" the files. Encountered no problems with ARC. I tried running a couple of the sample programs and all seems well. I have had better luck downloading the UUencoded files than the binary ARC files. Someone posted Turbo Pascal versions of UUdecode and UUencode a while back on net.sources if you don't have them. Jim Greenlee -- The Shadow Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!jkg
rob@gould9.UUCP (rob) (11/01/86)
In article <419@uwmacc.UUCP>, anderson@uwmacc.UUCP (Jess Anderson) writes: > Did anybody else pick up SPL from Dennis Baer (...!helm!dlbaer)? > I did, and I'm having a problem I don't understand. I hope someone > can help me with it. Baer distributed his program (binary) in > five parts, posted to this newsgroup. I was interested, so I saved > the parts, stripped the extra lines off the heads and tails of the > parts, cat-ed them into one large file, fed that file to uudecode > to obtain spllib.arc, transferred the .arc file (kermit on the > Unix Vax-11/780 (BSD 4.3), ProComm 2.4.2 Kermit on my PC-clone > Z-158), and (on the PC) ran ARC51 on it. First try, I get one > program partially un-arced (BLACKJAC.SP), then the error message > ABORT: stack overflow. Hm, I think, try ARC's t option, which then > yields: Archive truncated in file BLACKJAC.SP, One error detected. > Damn! Supposing I may have gotten an error during the Kermit > step, I transfer the file again to a new disk [ugh, 31 minutes > @ 2400 baud!]. Same result. > I was pretty careful about handling the 5-part postings and > assembling then into one file to feed to uudecode. > Nevertheless, something could have happened at that step. > However, if someone else got the same result I did, maybe the > fault is in what was posted. > If someone knows what I should do next (or even has suggestions), > I'd appreciate some e-mail on that. ADVthanksANCE... > -- > ==ARPA:====================anderson@unix.macc.wisc.edu===Jess Anderson====== > | (Please use ARPA if you can.) MACC | > | UUCP: {harvard,seismo,topaz, 1210 W. Dayton | > | akgua,allegra,ihnp4,usbvax}!uwvax!uwmacc!anderson Madison, WI 53706 | > | BITNET: anderson@wiscmacc 608/263-6988 | > ==Words are not just blown air. They have a meaning.=====(Chuang Tsu)======= O.K. I had to try this sol too,,, my copy which i downloaded twice showed manual,picture,and some other file as having bad sector info,,,,But The WORST part was I had to get a binary file from the WRONG!!!!! place, why can't people put thier files (binary) in net- .sources or in whatever category they belong in....I can only assume from the posting and the defensiveness on the part of the poster that he was an amateur and lacked proper netiquette....Well I suppose I have flamed him enough for his lack of whatever he is missing.... And by the way the file reached more than one sit screwed up I downloaded from two separate sites and got the exact byte- counts and messages each time.....Amateurs!!! In hopes this will tee off the proper people --- Netiquette! Thanks for your time..
anderson@uwmacc.UUCP (Jess Anderson) (11/02/86)
> [...],,,,But The WORST part was I had to get a binary file from the > WRONG!!!!! place, why can't people put thier files (binary) in net- > .sources or in whatever category they belong in....I can only assume > from the posting and the defensiveness on the part of the poster that > he was an amateur and lacked proper netiquette....Well I suppose I > have flamed him enough for his lack of whatever he is missing.... > And by the way the file reached more than one sit screwed > up I downloaded from two separate sites and got the exact byte- > counts and messages each time.....Amateurs!!! > Well, the problems I had were none of Dennis Baer's doing, because I had correctly saved and concatenated his 5-part post. Uudecoding it went without a hitch. Once I got my both Kermits working together in proper fashion (our Unix Kermit is badly braindamaged), I got the SPLLIB.ARC over to my micro and unarced without any problems. So the posting was complete and correct. On the point of *where* it was posted, unless I'm mistaken there is in fact *no* correct place to post binaries on the net, and the backbones have lately been complaining quite loudly about such posting being improper here. To be fair to Baer [:-)], those complaints came *after* his posting. I believe net.sources is quite specifically *not* for binaries, hence the name "sources." File SPLLIB.ARC is freely available from the Bulletin Board of the Nicolet Instrument Corp., 1200/2400 baud, 608/273-5037, Mike Brown, SysOp, nights and weekends. Personally, the breach of etiquette offends me more than the breach of netiquette--consider the root meaning of the word "amateur," for example. A little generosity of spirit for those more *and* less skilled than ourselves, maybe ... :-) :-) :-) ?? -- ==ARPA:====================anderson@unix.macc.wisc.edu===Jess Anderson====== | (Please use ARPA if you can.) MACC | | UUCP: {harvard,seismo,topaz, 1210 W. Dayton | | akgua,allegra,ihnp4,usbvax}!uwvax!uwmacc!anderson Madison, WI 53706 | | BITNET: anderson@wiscmacc 608/263-6988 | ==Words are not just blown air. They have a meaning.=====(Chuang Tsu)=======
akk2@ur-tut.UUCP (A Kacker) (11/02/86)
In article <845@gould9.UUCP> rob@gould9.UUCP (rob) writes: >In article <419@uwmacc.UUCP>, anderson@uwmacc.UUCP (Jess Anderson) writes: >> Did anybody else pick up SPL from Dennis Baer (...!helm!dlbaer)? >> I did, and I'm having a problem I don't understand. I hope someone > O.K. I had to try this sol too,,, my copy which i downloaded >twice showed manual,picture,and some other file as having bad sector >info,,,,But The WORST part was I had to get a binary file from the >WRONG!!!!! place, why can't people put thier files (binary) in net- >.sources or in whatever category they belong in....I can only assume >from the posting and the defensiveness on the part of the poster that >he was an amateur and lacked proper netiquette....Well I suppose I >have flamed him enough for his lack of whatever he is missing.... > And by the way the file reached more than one sit screwed >up I downloaded from two separate sites and got the exact byte- >counts and messages each time.....Amateurs!!! > > In hopes this will tee off the > proper people --- Netiquette! > > Thanks for your time.. Maybe I am missing something here, but why in hell are you trying to flame the guy who posted the program ? If a program does not reach your site or if it reaches there all mangled up, it is **not** the fault of the poster. I had absolutely NO PROBLEM with cat'ing the 5 parts and downloading to my PC. It works like a charm. I know for a fact that a lot of people have problems in getting programs off the net to work, simply because they don't do it right. Some don't strip off ALL the header and footer lines, some don't use a binary protocol when downloading and some don't read instructions of ARC or maybe just have a bad ARC program. As for posting binaries to the net. There is no **right** newgroup for posting binaries, because there is no net.pc.binaries or mod.pc.binaries. Please DO NOT post binaries to net.sources which is exclusively for sources. Till a pc.bianries newgroup is created, we will have to live with binary postings to net.micro.pc. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Atul Kacker UUCP : {allegra|seismo|decvax}!rochester!ur-tut!akk2 BITNET : AKK2@UORDBV
jallen@netxcom.UUCP (John Allen) (11/04/86)
In article <845@gould9.UUCP> rob@gould9.UUCP (rob) writes: [After a discussion regarding problems downloading SPL] > O.K. I had to try this sol too,,, my copy which i downloaded >twice showed manual,picture,and some other file as having bad sector >info,,,,But The WORST part was I had to get a binary file from the >WRONG!!!!! place, why can't people put thier files (binary) in net- >.sources or in whatever category they belong in....I can only assume HOW can you call net.micro.pc the "WRONG!!!!!" place without offering a reasonable alternative? There is no net.binaries.pc, or other truly suitable group. net.sources is a much more global group than is net.micro.pc. >from the posting and the defensiveness on the part of the poster that >he was an amateur and lacked proper netiquette....Well I suppose I >have flamed him enough for his lack of whatever he is missing.... Whatever HE is missing? Perhaps a bit of self-examination is in order. > And by the way the file reached more than one sit screwed >up I downloaded from two separate sites and got the exact byte- >counts and messages each time.....Amateurs!!! It also reached a number of sites in perfectly clean condition. There are no errors in the .arc file I ended up with. Well rob, are you volunteering to moderate mod.sources.pc & mod.binaries.pc? Without these, there's no way way to clean up net.micro.pc. > > In hopes this will tee off the > proper people --- Netiquette! Whatever that means... Why are there so many people out there that love to jump on someone else for what they feel is an inappropriate submission? Why do so few of these people have constructive suggestions? The original submission was, without doubt, much more appropriate than the response it elicited. John Allen ========================================================================= NetExpress Communications, Inc. seismo!{sundc|hadron}!netxcom!jallen 1953 Gallows Road, Suite 300 (703) 749-2238 Vienna, Va., 22180 =========================================================================