[net.startrek] STAR TREK Movie Reviews

dossamg (03/24/83)

       The following article was written for LEEPERCON VIII:

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				    by
			      Alan M. Gopin

       STAR TREK was a movie that was eagerly awaited for years	 by
       trekkies	 and non trekkies alike.  When it finally came out,
       there were many	who  were  disappointed	 by  it,  including
       myself.	 However,  after  having  seen	it  a few times, my
       opinion is changing.

       STAR  TREK  II  was  a  movie  that  most  people  had	low
       expectations  for  after	the "debacle" of STAR TREK I.  When
       it  came	 out,  most  people  were   pleasantly	 surprised,
       including  myself.   However,  after  having  seen  it a	few
       times, I	am less	 impressed  with  it  than  I  was  at	the
       beginning.  I still like	the movie, but I no longer think it
       is a better movie than STAR TREK	I.

       The major raps against STAR TREK	I are that its plot  was  a
       simple  rehash of a TV episode "The Changeling,"	and that it
       is too slow moving.  While there	 are  similarities  between
       STAR TREK I and "The Changeling," STAR TREK I takes the idea
       of the TV episode and greatly expands on	it.  V'GER  is	not
       just a bigger and better	NOMAD.	V'GER is a very	much like a
       child that is discovering for the first time that the  world
       is a much more complex and much less controllable place than
       he/she imagined possible.  V'GER	is searching for the answer
       to  the	enternal question: "What does it all mean?" It is a
       question	that can never be  answered.   But  by	asking	it,
       V'GER  is  moving  beyond  the realm of machine and into	the
       realm of	being, in the same way that man	 moves	beyond	the
       realm  of  animal by asking the same question.  V'GER is	not
       returning to Earth merely because it was	programmed to,	but
       because	it  is	looking	 for its roots.	 It has	to find	the
       Creator,	because	it must	have the answer	to  that  question.
       The  tragedy  is	that V'GER has not completely made the leap
       required	to become an adult.  It	cannot accept the fact that
       there  is  no  answer.  Because of this,	the Earth is nearly
       destroyed, and Capt. Decker must	sacrifice himself.

       This brings me to one of	the reasons that I  believe  people
       did not like this movie.	 To appeciate V'GER's saga requires
       a certain amount	of thought.  The audience has  to  work	 at
       this  movie.   That  is	the  problem.	Contemporary  movie
       audiences, besides usually being	rude, are lazy.	  They	are
       not  willing  to	 make  the  effort  required  to  appeciate
       something at the	level of abstraction represented  by  V'GER
       and its needs.

       The second rap against STAR TREK	I is its lack of  pace.	  I
       agree  with this	to a certain extent.  There are	some scenes
       in this movie that were not  well  edited.   The	 particular
       offender	 that  comes  to mind is the scene involving Scotty
       ferrying	Admiral	Kirk to	the  Enterprise.   This	 scene	was
       about  twice as long as it needed to be to be effective.	 By
       the time	it is finished,	the image invoked by the  scene	 is
       one  of mental masturbation.  After all,	you can	only stroke
       the Enterprise so many times.

       Overall,	however, I feel	that the  pace	of  the	 movie	was
       appropriate  to reflect the mood.  Also,	the pace allows	the
       viewer to linger	over the special effects, which	can only be
       described   as	awesome.   The	movie  truly  is  a  visual
       experience.

       When I first saw	this movie, I gave it a	+1  on	the  Leeper
       Scale.	After  several	more  viewings,	 my opinion of this
       movie has gone up.  Now I give it a +3.

       STAR TREK II makes no bones about being the sequal to  a	 TV
       episode,	 specifically  "Space  Seed." It was a more popular
       movie than STAR TREK I precisely	because	it is a	movie  that
       is basically an expanded	TV episode.  It	has more action	and
       a more entertaining  plot  than	STAR  TREK  I,	but  it	 is
       certainly a more	shallow	movie at first glance.	Notice that
       I say at	first glance.  The depth is there  in  this  movie,
       but  the	viewer has to look beyond the cheap thrills to find
       it.  And	the cheap thrills abound in this  movie,  in  fact,
       they are	the major problem I have with it.  This	movie takes
       steps into the  realm  of  the  genre  that  I  call  "Gory,
       Graphic,	 and  Disgusting"  that	 are  both  unnecessary	and
       unfaithful to the Star Trek tradition.  The sad fact is that
       gore  sells tickets these days, and STAR	TREK II	prostitutes
       itself to a certain extent to appease the gore freaks.  STAR
       TREK  II	 is a movie that can be	enjoyed	totally	mindlessly,
       perfect for today's average audience.

       For those of us with I.Q.s larger than our shoe size,  there
       is  something to	think about in this movie if we	are willing
       to look.	 This movie is about living with  growing  old	and
       learning	to accept Death.  Kirk finally has to look Death in
       the face.  When the movie begins	Kirk is	beginning  to  feel
       old.   When  the	 movie	ends  he  says " I feel	young, very
       young." There is	certainly something to	think  about  here.
       What  is	 it  about Spock's death that makes Kirk's attitude
       change?	 This  is  a  question	that  gives  the   audience
       something  to  think  about, if they are	willing	to look	for
       it.

       My opinion of this movie	has not	changed	much after repeated
       viewings.   I  give  it	a +2 on	the Leeper Scale.  It would
       have gotten a +3, but it	has sold out to	the masses.

karn (03/25/83)

I have noticed a parallel between the two Star Trek movies and the two
TV pilots: the first was rejected as being too "cerebral" by NBC, but
the second had more action to appeal to the masses and was accepted.
However, The Menagerie has become one of my favorite episodes.

Phil

dossamg (03/28/83)

The following article was written for LeeperCon VIII:

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				    by
			      Alan M. Gopin

       STAR TREK was a movie that was eagerly awaited for years	 by
       trekkies	 and non trekkies alike.  When it finally came out,
       there were many	who  were  disappointed	 by  it,  including
       myself.	 However,  after  having  seen	it  a few times, my
       opinion is changing.

       STAR  TREK  II  was  a  movie  that  most  people  had	low
       expectations  for  after	the "debacle" of STAR TREK I.  When
       it  came	 out,  most  people  were   pleasantly	 surprised,
       including  myself.   However,  after  having  seen  it a	few
       times, I	am less	 impressed  with  it  than  I  was  at	the
       beginning.  I still like	the movie, but I no longer think it
       is a better movie than STAR TREK	I.

       The major raps against STAR TREK	I are that its plot  was  a
       simple  rehash of a TV episode "The Changeling,"	and that it
       is too slow moving.  While there	 are  similarities  between
       STAR TREK I and "The Changeling," STAR TREK I takes the idea
       of the TV episode and greatly expands on	it.  V'GER  is	not
       just a bigger and better	NOMAD.	V'GER is a very	much like a
       child that is discovering for the first time that the  world
       is a much more complex and much less controllable place than
       he/she imagined possible.  V'GER	is searching for the answer
       to  the	enternal question: "What does it all mean?" It is a
       question	that can never be  answered.   But  by	asking	it,
       V'GER  is  moving  beyond  the realm of machine and into	the
       realm of	being, in the same way that man	 moves	beyond	the
       realm  of  animal by asking the same question.  V'GER is	not
       returning to Earth merely because it was	programmed to,	but
       because	it  is	looking	 for its roots.	 It has	to find	the
       Creator,	because	it must	have the answer	to  that  question.
       The  tragedy  is	that V'GER has not completely made the leap
       required	to become an adult.  It	cannot accept the fact that
       there  is  no  answer.  Because of this,	the Earth is nearly
       destroyed, and Capt. Decker must	sacrifice himself.

       This brings me to one of	the reasons that I  believe  people
       did not like this movie.	 To appeciate V'GER's saga requires
       a certain amount	of thought.  The audience has  to  work	 at
       this  movie.   That  is	the  problem.	Contemporary  movie
       audiences, besides usually being	rude, are lazy.	  They	are
       not  willing  to	 make  the  effort  required  to  appeciate
       something at the	level of abstraction represented  by  V'GER
       and its needs.

       The second rap against STAR TREK	I is its lack of  pace.	  I
       agree  with this	to a certain extent.  There are	some scenes
       in this movie that were not  well  edited.   The	 particular
       offender	 that  comes  to mind is the scene involving Scotty
       ferrying	Admiral	Kirk to	the  Enterprise.   This	 scene	was
       about  twice as long as it needed to be to be effective.	 By
       the time	it is finished,	the image invoked by the  scene	 is
       one  of mental masturbation.  After all,	you can	only stroke
       the Enterprise so many times.

       Overall,	however, I feel	that the  pace	of  the	 movie	was
       appropriate  to reflect the mood.  Also,	the pace allows	the
       viewer to linger	over the special effects, which	can only be
       described   as	awesome.   The	movie  truly  is  a  visual
       experience.

       When I first saw	this movie, I gave it a	+1  on	the  Leeper
       Scale.	After  several	more  viewings,	 my opinion of this
       movie has gone up.  Now I give it a +3.

       STAR TREK II makes no bones about being the sequal to  a	 TV
       episode,	 specifically  "Space  Seed." It was a more popular
       movie than STAR TREK I precisely	because	it is a	movie  that
       is basically an expanded	TV episode.  It	has more action	and
       a more entertaining  plot  than	STAR  TREK  I,	but  it	 is
       certainly a more	shallow	movie at first glance.	Notice that
       I say at	first glance.  The depth is there  in  this  movie,
       but  the	viewer has to look beyond the cheap thrills to find
       it.  And	the cheap thrills abound in this  movie,  in  fact,
       they are	the major problem I have with it.  This	movie takes
       steps into the  realm  of  the  genre  that  I  call  "Gory,
       Graphic,	 and  Disgusting"  that	 are  both  unnecessary	and
       unfaithful to the Star Trek tradition.  The sad fact is that
       gore  sells tickets these days, and STAR	TREK II	prostitutes
       itself to a certain extent to appease the gore freaks.  STAR
       TREK  II	 is a movie that can be	enjoyed	totally	mindlessly,
       perfect for today's average audience.

       For those of us with I.Q.s larger than our shoe size,  there
       is  something to	think about in this movie if we	are willing
       to look.	 This movie is about living with  growing  old	and
       learning	to accept Death.  Kirk finally has to look Death in
       the face.  When the movie begins	Kirk is	beginning  to  feel
       old.   When  the	 movie	ends  he  says " I feel	young, very
       young." There is	certainly something to	think  about  here.
       What  is	 it  about Spock's death that makes Kirk's attitude
       change?	 This  is  a  question	that  gives  the   audience
       something  to  think  about, if they are	willing	to look	for
       it.

       My opinion of this movie	has not	changed	much after repeated
       viewings.   I  give  it	a +2 on	the Leeper Scale.  It would
       have gotten a +3, but it	has sold out to	the masses.

bis (03/30/83)

If you look hard enough, you can find something profound in
anything.  Thus, TRON really has a much deeper meaning: the
relationship between man and technology and the dichotomy inherent
in a juxtaposition of reality and fantasy.  Who is to say which of
us is sane?  Kind of makes you stop and think, huh?  That is, it
will if "your IQ is larger than your shoe size".

		Andrew Shaw
		BTLHO x4715
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