[net.startrek] On Spock's Death

smw@tilt.UUCP (Stewart Wiener) (04/24/84)

From the responses to the survey, three views of Spock and his death, 
including my own.  Of psychological interest, if nothing else. :-)
Quoted, I should note, by permission.

>From Roger Noe (ihlts!rjnoe):
	Sure, I was deeply hurt when Spock died.  While pointing out
that I have a very good grip on reality (whatever it may be), I felt I
had lost a special friend.  In many ways, Spock was AND IS real to me.
The fact that he never has existed (or will exist) is irrelevant.  I
know he is primarily a work of art, not a substantial being, but to me
he was and is real and "alive" in the sense that I have an understanding
of his philosophy and his way of thinking.  I know Spock better than I
know anyone in this world with the important exceptions of myself and
my spouse.  Note that this includes the people I consider my close
friends.  That makes Spock an especially close friend.  I cannot
comment on the cause, but I can observe that Spock and I have many
similarities when it comes to thinking and feeling, particularly so 
now that Spock has accepted his humanity.


>From Jerryl Payne (inmet!jlp):
	DID I EVER CRY!?????  You betcha!  Every time I saw Kirk give
the Eulogy for Spock, I felt those wet things well up in my eyes.  
Logical as I thought I was, it was impossible to suppress the feeling, 
even after the 12th time.  I considered it a supreme job of acting on
Shatner's part, embodying the right sense of loss and feeling for one
whom we have come to respect, love and care about over the years.
	When I was young, I took refuge in the struggle of Spock to 
deal with emotions, while always maintaining the logical front.  Spock 
in a sense became a personality model for me, one which I have since had 
to modify.  Nevertheless, a significant impact indeed.


>From Stewart Wiener (princeton!tilt!smw):
	I also took Spock as a role model, when I was eight years old
or so...  immediately after my father died, as I realized many years
later.  And I spent a few years afterwards straightening out the
mistake I'd made in molding my personality after him, with incomplete
success (never could break myself of hacking around on computers :-).
	And I came to the movie completely unprepared for it.  (I'd 
bought the novel, and read exactly one-third of it; so I knew all about
Saavik, and Genesis, and Peter Preston, but not about David Marcus and
Spock's death.)  Couldn't believe it was true till the credits started
rolling up the screen.  I was grouchy and irritable for the rest of the
evening, then shut myself in my bedroom (with the soundtrack of ST:TMP
playing) to finish the novel and cry for hours.  It wasn't until last
month that I saw it for the second [third, fourth... I rented the
videotape for 2 days] time, and it no longer hit me so hard since I
suspect now that his death isn't likely to be final.

--
Most Trek types on the network don't take things so seriously.  Many of
those are Kirk or Scott fans, though, according to the survey; I wonder
what that tells us?
-- 
	     Stewart Wiener			:-) "Read and weep as did
	  Princeton Univ. EECS			:-)  Alexander when he beheld
 {allegra,ihnp4!mhuxi}!princeton!tilt!smw	:-)  the glories of Egypt."