friedman@uiucdcs.UUCP (friedman ) (11/15/83)
#R:uok:8400001:uiucdcs:24900021:000:58 uiucdcs!friedman Nov 14 12:27:00 1983 Hear hear! Biggers is right, and that needed to be said.
marc@pyuxn.UUCP (M Schare) (11/16/83)
Star Trek, even in the good old days, never mde a whole lot of sense if one analized it to closely. For example, the episode where Kirk had a double and Sulu and the landing party were freezing because of a transporter malfunction. The whole episode (from a technology point of view) centered on getting the transporter repaired to beam up Sulu and company. Why, oh Why didnt they send down a shuttle-craft to pick them up? Simple solution, no. Why then did the episode work, and become one of the more popular ? No one cared about the transporter, or Sulu , for that matter. Everyone was wrapped up in the DRAMA of Kirk's inner (outer?) struggle with his double. Don't take this * GREAT * show, and turn it into Battlestar Galactica, or an equally inane SCI-FI. This show had (has) class !
dxp@pyuxhh.UUCP (11/16/83)
I agree that only a little investigation into the credibility of
the stories shows very little thought by the writers.For example :
The black/white contrast figures of commissioner Bele and his target
the (opposite white/black) political activist Lokai.How could this
hatred of the opposite race have happened?
This is what Bele and his people look like
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Any good excuses,I won't accept self-hate stuff either!
I still love the shows even the weak ones
Dave Peak(pyuhh!dxp)dbiggers@uok.UUCP (11/20/83)
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uok!dbiggers Nov 9 18:48:00 1983
All this discussion about the speed of the Enterprise is pointless.
The show has never been a technological marvel. I cite one
prominent example: (by the way, I *know* all the episodes, but
almost none of the titles, so I'll have to refer by description:
no flames please)
"[concerning the sound sensor]... With the computer we can
increase that capability on the order of ONE TO THE FOURTH POWER..."
--Kirk, on trial for the death of Ben Finny
Also, remember that in the episodes a star ship computer could "pinpoint
a lit match on the planet surface" but in the second movie, they couldn't
distinguish a "particle of animate matter caught in the matrix" from
Khan and his group of approx. thirty people?
So, let's lay off on the techno-garbage and enjoy the *drama*!!
David Biggers
[duke!uok!dbiggers]wjohnson@uok.UUCP (11/20/83)
#R:uok:8400001:uok:8400002:000:160 uok!wjohnson Nov 9 19:00:00 1983 How about that energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy? Remember all that talk about positive and negative energy? W. Carey Johnson, Jr. [duke!uok!wjohnson]
okie@ihuxj.UUCP (Bryan K. Cobb) (04/26/84)
The recent ST novel "The Wounded Sky" by Diane Duane has a nice escape from the "box" of having an energy barrier around the galaxy. It really wasn't a barrier, but the leading edge of a "megabubble"--the wavefront of leftover radiations and etc. from some wonderful cosmic demolition derby. Kirk & company encountered that wavefront when they twice tried to leave the galaxy. Probes since that time (in Duane's universe) showed the true nature of the problem. Not a bad method of getting out of one of the episodic "traps." BKC