nglasser@yale-comix.UUCP (Nathan Glasser) (04/29/84)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that in "Is There in Truth No Beauty?" the Enterprise went through the energy barrier at the rim of the galaxy (or whatever). They weren't too clear in that episode as to where they were, but I think they said they went into some sort of space-time continuum. Recall that they needed help from the ambassador to get themselves out of there. If they were just in the energy barrier, they could have gotten out themselves, like they did the other two times. Nathan Glasser ..decvax!yale-comix!nglasser
barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) (04/29/84)
-------------------- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that in "Is There in Truth No Beauty?" the Enterprise went through the energy barrier at the rim of the galaxy (or whatever). They weren't too clear in that episode as to where they were, but I think they said they went into some sort of space-time continuum. Recall that they needed help from the ambassador to get themselves out of there. If they were just in the energy barrier, they could have gotten out themselves, like they did the other two times. Nathan Glasser ..decvax!yale-comix!nglasser -------------------- You're wrong. The reason they needed the ambassador's help, which was stated quite clearly in the episode, was because they didn't have that area of the galaxy charted, so they didn't know their way around. It is equivalent to dumping a blind man (who can't navigate using the stars) in the middle of the desert and expecting him to find his way home. The Medusans have a better sense of direction, and can tell where they are without needing to know the area. As to why they were able to get out by themselves the other times: in WNMHGB they could just reverse the way that they came, or even keep track of their relationship with the known parts of the galaxy so that they could get back more efficiently; I don't remember the exact details of "By Any Other Name", but I think the Andromedans helped them back. In ITITNB, a madman got them into the situation, and, as they said "it'll take a madman to get [them] out." -- Barry Margolin ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar
judd@umcp-cs.UUCP (05/01/84)
Oh, crap! As long as you can see the stars you can navigate. Just look for
very bright stars you know about. that will give you a close enough fix to get
you to familiar territory. They needed the help of the Medusan because they
were in an space/time they did not understand (note the hash on main viewer).
The Medusan's seem to intuitivly understand the weird place they were in (the
medusan was an ambasidor!! not a navigator) and so could get them home.
NOTHING has a 'better sense of direction' than a navigational computer connected
to apropriate sensors.
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Uucp:...{allegra,seismo}!umcp-cs!juddbarmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) (05/03/84)
Oh, suspend some disbelief for a second! If you aren't familiar with the pattern of stars from a particular direction then you cannot tell which stars are familiar and which aren't. Also, since they were in the galactic energy barrier, it looked like they couldn't even see the stars in the galaxy. My guess at the reasons that the Medusans can intuitively navigate is because they can sense the fabric of space, and tell where they are from it. Any arguments about this requiring ether to exist should be sent to /dev/null. This is fiction, remember? -- Barry Margolin ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar